Cetnro, Wheating and Kaki at Monaco 1500: What Order?

I see I have butchered Centro in the title. Oh well, he'll get butchered in this race, but at least he's learning. I'm not sure if I am...

chet wrote:

I see I have butchered Centro in the title. Oh well, he'll get butchered in this race, but at least he's learning. I'm not sure if I am...

Not sure on Kaki, Wheating 3:31.3, Centro 3:32.8.

Centro FTW!!!!!!!!

Not really.

I like Kiplagat in a really fast time.

And I don't see Wheating all of a sudden dropping 3 seconds.

crazy person wrote:

Centro FTW!!!!!!!!

Not really.

I like Kiplagat in a really fast time.

And I don't see Wheating all of a sudden dropping 3 seconds.

Most people on this board didn't see anything wheating did until he went and did it including making the olympics, doubling at ncaa's and pre last year and his races in europe. I say most, 'cause a few called for it. Wheating should be getting fairly fit by now, and he hit 3:32 last year after a full NCAA season.

I think if the race is 3:30-3:31 Wheaters has a real shot to go under 3;32 myself.

order amongst the three I say,

Kaki

Wheating

Centrowitz

But they will not finish 1-2-3

Wheating was 3:30.9 last year. Where's the 3:32 coming from?

You're reading it wrong. People's times are listed below them not above. The 3:32 is Riseley's PR.

Gregson beats all three.

dunno. I wonder if Kakii is moving up. he must have realized he can never be better than 2nd as long as Ruhdisa is around.

Silas in 328

Kaki in 329

Wheating in 331

Centro in 333

assume good rabbit and weather

Wheating might take a while to peak, look at last year.

He certainly did not open in 1:46 and 3:36 in 2010.

Assume that Wheating has done some speed work like 3 x 400 m @ 49-50 and 200's in 24. That what was missing for nationals, his coach should have known better...

longjack wrote:

Kaki in 329

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Most ridiculous prediction so far!!!!!

I doubt Kaki is seriously moving up. My guess is this is just a chance to get some longer racing in before Worlds.

Kaki seldom touches the 1500. but he...

ran 3:45 1500 at age 16.

ran 3:39 at age 19.

ran 2:13.9 1000m at age 19.

these numbers indicate great aerobic capacity.

couple it with 142 800 speed and you have what?

a potential world record holder, that is what.

we'll see if he can hang in there another 500m....

really, it depends where his training is geared... 8 or 15?

with the right odds, i'd plunk a bit of change on kaki.

Last year Kaki ran 1:42.23 on June 4th and then 2:13.63 on July 3rd. This indicates to me that he might be able to run 3:34 or so, in the sense that his endurance is better than some might think, but it is still unlikely that he will run a 1500 that compares well with his 800. I would be shocked if he runs faster than 3:33. IF he does, he would have to be considered a medal threat at 1500 as he would have better 800 credentials than anybody in the field along with respectable stamina.

longjack wrote:

ran 3:39 at age 19.

ran 2:13.9 1000m at age 19.

the 2:13.9 is so much better than the 3:39 (i.e., 85.5 for 500 meters extra). A 'marginal 400 (i.e., what you can run for distance X and then distance x+400m at this distance range should be 60 seconds for 400m (44 -> 1:44 (or a bit less) 3:50 -> 4:50. Thus, 85+ seconds is 60+85 rather than 60+(60/4)*1.05=75+

Of course, his 3:39 might not have been the same type of race as his 2:13, which was probably run to get a very fast time.

Kaki would do well running just behind the leaders, at whatever pace they run, and then kicking at the end for all he's worth. He certainly has the speed to out kick everyone in the field. If he runs sub 3:33 then he might to push from the front the next time he tries a 1500m.

It's my opinion that he isn't gonna be taking it super seriously, wasn't he hurt recently in NY

also Krum ran 3:31, how was his aerobic conditioning different from what Kaki does?

with his 800m speed, 3:27-3:28 should be almost guaranteed.

Not a major