Peachtree Results

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Peachtree Road Race Results

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219 0:37:07 Russell Pfeffer 428 M 30 New York N.Y. Details

394 0:39:33 Kate Irvin Pfeffer 379 F 32 New York N.Y. Details

[quote]Talking to the Moon wrote:

I would like to see Hall succeed but he got his butt kicked today.

[quote]agip wrote:

I actually think this was a great race for Hall considering the conditions of the race and that his PR (on a track mind you) for 10k is only a 28:07. He was only 1:09 back from that when he is mainly focusing on marathon training, running in humid conditions when he mainly trains in bone dry Flagstaff, and when he probably gets paid just to make an appearance. No need to kill yourself for a 10k when you can run a 2:04 marathon.

No we want the race results , not "US Chumps" .

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Kitwara wins in 28:05, edging Mathew Kisorio

Pretty slow. Way off the winning times from the late 70s/early 80s when they were running 27:30 and faster. Peachtree doesn't seem to attract the talent it did at one time.

skepticrunner wrote:

Boston Marathon doesnt really "matter." first of all the course is point to point so no matter how fast Hall runs it wont be worth shit in the eyes of the IAAF. Second of all, its just the Boston Marathon. i get that its an important race and all but i would much rather have American runners run well in the olympics and world championships than in road races. ideally they would kick ass in both but when it comes down it, if youre going to a hit or miss runner can you please make sure to "hit" the olympics and world championships and "miss" everything else?

A marathon is a race. Not a time trial. He finished 4th. 1-11 were all Kenyan and Ethiopian.... except for Hall. And the first 11 were the only ones to break 2:10. 4 guys under 2:05. Hall was one of them. Everybody else was 2:06 and up. It's racing. Everyone there was running the same course with the same "favorable" conditions. He finished 5 seconds behind the NY marathon winner.

What other American is that close to "hitting" in this event?

Shut up.

Not really. Hall's time is right between what Shorter ran for the win and Rodgers followed by Kardong ran in '77 with Viren quite a bit back. Yes, the course then ended at Central City Park (now Woodruff Park), but conditions were not dissimilar - too muggy/too hot. Plus Kitwara and Kisorio took the pack out through 3 in sub 27 pace, and they all paid the price today.

douglas burke wrote:

i know he is not a 10k runner, but hall should be up there with kitwara and kisorio, maybe 5 -10 seconds behind, not 70 seconds behind, i know people will say he is training through it and he probably is, but so are kitwara and kisorio. hall is really good he should not run so poorly like today and his last few half marathons, hall should of blown away all the americans, i dont understand it.

should OF blown away? Wow

sponge wrote:

Not really. Hall's time is right between what Shorter ran for the win and Rodgers followed by Kardong ran in '77 with Viren quite a bit back. Yes, the course then ended at Central City Park (now Woodruff Park), but conditions were not dissimilar - too muggy/too hot. Plus Kitwara and Kisorio took the pack out through 3 in sub 27 pace, and they all paid the price today.

How do you people know this stuff? This was like 35 f***ing years ago!

205 marathon = 4 x 10k in 29:37

10K Marathon

26:38 2:05:00

MacMillian

How? wrote:

How do you people know this stuff? This was like 35 f***ing years ago!

Don't worry. One day you will be old and remember all sorts of useless crap as well.

I'll edit. Hall seems to be the only elite marathoner that gets crushed regularly in any event other than the marathon. He focuses on marathons, sure. But no other marathoner of his caliber (that I know of) is rendered incapable of competing at any other distance other than the marathon. Hall's next marathon is six months away and he has a 13:15 5k PR, a 59:43 half marathon PR, and has won cross country nationals. But he's getting beaten in 10k's by almost a minute by domestic competition.

It's just weird.

dean moriarty wrote:

I'll edit. Hall seems to be the only elite marathoner that gets crushed regularly in any event other than the marathon. He focuses on marathons, sure. But no other marathoner of his caliber (that I know of) is rendered incapable of competing at any other distance other than the marathon. Hall's next marathon is six months away and he has a 13:15 5k PR, a 59:43 half marathon PR, and has won cross country nationals. But he's getting beaten in 10k's by almost a minute by domestic competition.

It's just weird.

One similar example, and Hall doesn't have near the success yet, is Lasse Viren's career. He wasn't exactly full of stellar races in non peak, non Olympic years. Never broke 28 in non Olympic years. Here's hoping Ryan is taking a similar approach in the marathon.

You mean like blood doping? Just kidding. I am not even a Hall fan but I completely 100% agree with your previous post in this thread. Hall may be wacky, and wildly inconsistent and non-marathon distances, but he is our most competitive runner at the marathon right now by far. Dathan is admittedly more of a 5k-13.1 guy even if he sees himself as a 2h06 guy in the 'thon, you gotta run it for it to count.

Unfortunately Ryan Hall only has one speed and that's marathon pace. It works in marathons, but the guy just hasn't been able to muster any speed since getting off the track in 2007.

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Kitwara wins in 28:05, edging Mathew Kisorio

Pretty slow. Way off the winning times from the late 70s/early 80s when they were running 27:30 and faster. Peachtree doesn't seem to attract the talent it did at one time.

Really? Since the course record was 27:56 set in 1986 (a cool temps year) before the 27:04 set in 1996 (best conditions ever) maybe you are thinking of another race. Now you could certainly say it was deeper in the early 80's but not better at the top. In fact 28:05 is very fast for this course for a warm year, in fact I would guess one of the fastest ever for when race starting temps were over 72 deg/high humidity.

Of course you can look it up for yourself....

I don't have an opinion either way about Hall, but it seems a lot of good men didn't do so well today (Braun, Mack, Carney...) so the story simply isn't just about Hall. He may be the poster boy for American running at the moment but I hate to see message boards latch onto his every move, not only because it puts unfair pressure on him, but because it does a disservice to the other guys out there who are working just as hard, putting up decent times, and don't get a lot of press for committing to the same sport that the rest of us love/love to talk about.

And can we also talk about how Abdi is 34 years old and just came in third today?

what about abdi wrote:

I don't have an opinion either way about Hall, but it seems a lot of good men didn't do so well today (Braun, Mack, Carney...) so the story simply isn't just about Hall. He may be the poster boy for American running at the moment but I hate to see message boards latch onto his every move, not only because it puts unfair pressure on him, but because it does a disservice to the other guys out there who are working just as hard, putting up decent times, and don't get a lot of press for committing to the same sport that the rest of us love/love to talk about.

And can we also talk about how Abdi is 34 years old and just came in third today?

Did he not register, show up on race day and have John Chaplin put him in the elite field?