50+ Masters Training and Racing Open Forum

I know I've asked us all to stay on topic, but I must ask kiryea to give it a rest. We've all seen your weeks-old post countless times now, and we all know that you want to implicate a specific person. Your tiresome reposting of this attack is doing nothing to advance the thread. The mods themselves are simply deleting this post without request, and quite frankly, I won't stand for implicating people that I know are friends of this thread, either. Cyber-harassing is a crime, and it has got to stop. You can either remove the accusations or you can expect to continue to have it deleted ad nauseum, ruining the thread and its mission in the process.

Hey, I got a better idea. Let's just move on now.

PS-I'd be more than happy to carry this conversation forward off the boards.

Kiryea wrote:

That post was harmless, but kept getting deleted. Why?

Statements like:

Kiryea wrote:XXX has been actively deleting posts here, and I wouldn't put it past him to email you impersonating me or someone else here like he did with Dick earlier.

are not harmless, they are slanderous.

Kiryea wrote:I consider myself to be a friend of this thread. As such I feel it is important to stand up for what is right by protesting the cowardly antics of the LRs best known troll. You're kidding yourself if you think he's not behind this. Ask Wejo. He'll tell you what a pest he is.

Why then does he have such an "in" with the mods that he can so easily manipulate the boards all the while he doesn't even try to hide his email when he posts?

Honestly, I don't know you from Adam, your handle on the boards only ever showed up after Skuj started posting. On the contrary, I know quite a bit about Skuj, and I've talked with him personally off the boards, and I've talked with other people that live in his vicinity many times. I do know he's been severely "trolled", and I'm not going to pile on by blaming the victim. He does have a right to defend himself.

Kiryea wrote:

The truth is not slander. What is hard to understand is you putting on the blinders while this thread goes down the hopper. Your solution is to blame those who came to this thread after Skuj? Really? Take off your blinders, man.

Goodbye.

Actually, no. My solution has been to sit back and try to encourage people to adhere to the principles of the thread, talk about racing and training, and not to post things that they don't know. Then, in the mean time, working behind the scenes with multiple people and multiple venues to try and figure out what is truly going on. People that know me, know that these past several posts are really not my style, but this has gone on long enough.

Now, can we get back to reality? Please?

Today, shorter burn, 22 3/4 min., good spurt to finish.

Racerdb wrote:

My reality is I'm feeling more like a runner these days! Only missed one day the past 6 weeks. Thinking about making a push for 3000 miles for the year but I'll need to avg nearly 9mi/day for the next 3 weeks. I've done that for most of the year but for some reason that seems like a lot right now. Guess it's not really important and it wouldn't matter to anyone but me! But I sure would hate to end up with 2999... This would be my 4th straight year over 3k and I would kind of hate to blow my streak just because I got lazy...

How's everyone else's year ending up?

Looking forward to the Seattle results tomorrow...Wish I was there.

Good to know you're feeling more like your old self. I know exactly how you feel about long runs. Since my knee injury this summer, anything over 9 miles just sounds looong, and yet I routinely was running 14-16 mile runs without the blink of an eye prior to that. Coming back this last time has been harder. Certainly don't blow your streak because of laziness, but also don't try to force your streak if it means you might end up injured again. Tough call. Getting in 3k-miles for four years straight would be pretty impressive, though....actually reaching 3k in any year is pretty awesome...I'm happy to hit 2k, which I don't think I'll quite reach this year.

I'm with you on wishing the best to our comrades in tomorrow's Club XC Nats. Share some good local microbrews afterwards; Pioneer Square is usually pretty hopping (at least it was back in the '80's.)

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Week 28

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Wow, what a week it's been. There was actually quite a bit of good stuff posted last week, despite all the shenanigans. So let me start out by apologizing for losing my cool late last week, totally not my style. I think that grading finals and dealing with some other serious faculty issues got the better of me, and did not have me in a good frame of mine. On the positive side, I had a few very nice email conversations with several of you, which I thoroughly enjoyed, so thank you for those.

Great stuff coming out of Seattle. Hopefully we'll get a few reports. Muddy Girl, you ladies ran great! But the Impala team ran phenomenally, no one was going to deny them, so props to them. Also props to Club Northwest, in general, your club had a terrific showing. the 40+ ladies....WOW! The 50+ guys beating (by 1 point!) a very strong Compex squad (I know, sans Magill, but still), with Joe Sheeran validating his choice as masters LDR of the year. Probably nothing more amazing, though, than the indefatigable Linda Somers Smith at age 50 coming in 8th overall in the women's open race; a mere 33s off the winning time of Brie Feinagle. Too bad that Christine Kennedy wasn't able to make it to the start.

More information on the meet on the USATF site. Also some videos (unfortunately, not of the masters races.) available on runnerspace:

http://www.runnerspace.com/ClubXCChampionship

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From the exciting, to the mundane: for me it was another week of being cautious with the foot. Ran 33 miles on 7 days. Sun-Sat mileages were: 4,4,5.5,2,3,6.5,8. No real workouts again, most of the runs were easy to moderate pace. I did do two miles of acceleration run on the track during one of my 4 milers at the start of the week (trying to squeeze miles in on the lunch hour.) The second mile during the acceleration run clocked at 5:36, so probably the last half mile was somewhere's in the 5:2X pace range. It felt good, though the 8-miler at the end of the week did leave my foot a little tender...a little Ibuprofen afterwards, though, calmed it down.

OK. Here's hoping everyone is training (and racing) well! Look forward to hearing your reports.

All the best.

Yikes! I didn't to update the number. Should be

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Week 29

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I'm so ready for winter break!

Drop me a line when you get a chance, Dave.

A quiet week running wise. An easy 90 mins on monday and nothing until friday night, a barefoot 8 laps on the grass after work (11pm).Ran a soid 8k on the railtrail saturday, 35.20 last 3k in 12.26. Ran 40mins after work tonight (11pm).

een hitting the trails on the mountain bike, 7 rides of 60-80mins. Also 3 kyak sessions.

Sat. (yesterday) No run. End of 14 day streak

Sun. (today) For 42 2/3 min., fairly solid for over 38 min., 4 plus min. jog cool down. Legs felt for once fairly rested.

Victoria, B.C., Canada, Runner wrote:

Sat. (yesterday) No run. End of 14 day streak

Sun. (today) For 42 2/3 min., fairly solid for over 38 min., 4 plus min. jog cool down. Legs felt for once fairly rested.

(Too bad this message board doesn't offer the option of editing a post)....should be 42 3/4 min. run.

Week of 12/04 - 12/10

Sun, 12/04: usual 12 mile run with Sunday group. Averaged 7:37/mile

Mon, 12/05: usual off day from running

Tue, 12/06: 2 mile warmup, 1 mile @ 6:05, 2:00 jog, 4 x 400m (84, 81, 82, 82) with :90 jogs between, 2 mile cooldown. Day's total = 7 miles

Wed, 12/07: 6 miles easy recovery run

Thu, 12/08: 6 miles easy + 4 x 150m strides

Fri, 12/09: 29 minute jog around the Club XC Nat course

Sat, 12/10: USATF Club Nationals 10k Cross Country

UGH. Despite the fact that this was probably the easiest XC course imaginable, I ran like crap. Too embarrassed to even post my time. HOWEVER, I do have a serious question for all of you out there.

For a very long time now, it seems like I am perpetually congested in the sinuses and chest. Especially when I'm (trying to) sleep and when I run. On almost ALL my runs, about midway through, I start getting a never ending accumulation of flem which seems to congregate in my chest. When I try to take in oxygen, it feels like its getting blocked by this crud, and I end up running along, constantly trying to clear it by blowing my nose and hacking to clear the chest blockage. It's getting ridiculous and I truly feel like it's slowing me down because I can't get all the air to my lings through the thick crud.

Anyone ever experience this, know someone who has, or have any advice on what it is or how to cure it? Thanks for any insight.

Anyway, weekly total was about 42 miles and I did weights/core on Mon, Tue, Wed & Thur.

imarunr, sorry that Club XC didn't go well for you. I know that when I ran it a few years ago, it was such a shock to my system to be that far back in a pack of masters runners, that I ended up going out too hard and then faded badly in the second half.

As to your question, I've got a bit of that, and it's worse when it's cold out. I haven't found anything that's very effective at arresting it, but mucosil (or generic variant) does help a bit. A guy I sometime run with has it much worse than I do. I haven't asked whether he does anything to try and relieve it, but from the spitting and hacking, I'm guessing not much. So your not alone, but if it's as severe as you suggest, it could be a form of exercise-induced asthma. In which case, you might want to see a professional for proper treatment. A friend posted a link to this article to on his Facebook account:

Hope it's helpful.

Today, short easy run for 24:37.

imarunner: I'm not ot 50, but I know some of you and sometimes can offer useful advice.

Your situation sounds like what I was experiencing last year, and it was asthma induced not only by exercise, but by other triggers including foods and cold air. Sleeping can make it worse since there is no gravity to keep the acids from flowing into the esophogus.

I have become more diligent with the albuterol, but a more important key has been getting my stomach acids under control. I used to eat Tums like candy, but now a prilosec (or really a generic equivalent) is doing the trick. I'm also more conscious of my diet and try to limit spicy/fatty foods before a workout or race.

If this sounds like you, get checked out.

I'm telling you, there are some tough tough guys and gals in the 50+ age group, just look at the results for the National XC Meet! I had a good week of training and did my longest run yet with my titanium knees, a 20 miler this past Saturday. I felt strong and my knees felt good! I did take a rare rest day yesterday as I was traveling back from Alabama and thought a day off might be good for the ol knees. Had 81 miles in for the week. Off to my home state of Minnesota on Wednesday to speak. Will bring back some good memories running in below zero weather! Keep up the great training everyone! :-)

A friend wrote:

Among others, posts by lucKY2b were deleted in tonight's censorship. This is the person who started this thread and has worked tirelessly to keep this thread on track (pun intended) during these recent distractions. And how does Skuj repay him for his loyalty and hard work? He stabs him in the back! Now he is trying to wrest control of this thread from lucKY2b. You have been warned!

Not entirely true. There is one and only one person that Skuj (in full cooperation of the mods I might add) is trying to eradicate from these boards, and you know who you are. I know more than you think. Any posts of mine that have gone are my own fault. The mods themselves don't like people talking about the "D" word. Also, it's unfortunate that there has been some collateral damage, but what I know for certain is that if you just leave us old farts alone, and quit harassing Skuj (and others?) things will return to normal. Of that, I'm certain.

OK, back to your regular programming.

A friend wrote:

Which part exactly?

Your entire interpretation, for starters. You should be sued for slander.

A friend wrote:Slander implies that something false was written. Are you denying that Skuj is responsible for the recent deletions on this thread? I don't believe that you are that naive.

I'm denying Skuj is trying to wrest control of this thread. Do you think I don't know people outside these boards? I've spoken with many of the regular posters, including Skuj. I'm not at all naive about what's going on. If you have issues with post deletions, why don't you address your questions directly to the mods. Not to me or this thread.

Here, let me remind you of the terms of use: