Hey all. Thanks for the support. By all accounts it was a pretty rough weekend; lot's of unpleasant peripheral issues affected by, but unrelated to, the cancer. But we'll get through it all; family is family. And thanks, Rtype, on the workout comment; I'll be heading out to the "track" later today and see what we can manage tonight (now that it's about 45 degrees warmer, and my allergies are acting up in full force, ugh!)
Thinking about you, Ken, and your brother as you undergo the bone marrow transplant process. Courage, strength, support, and best of luck to you both! I'll see what I can do about using the app for your foundation; I've never used my iPhone when I run.
Congrats to DrT. You have quite an adventure ahead of you! Soak in every moment, they grow up so fast!
Add me to the list of those that don't fret too much about how hard race pace feels in workouts. But if you want a general rule of thumb (and please don't read too much into it), for me I find that I can usually hold race-pace in a workout for about 1/3rd the race distance...give-or-take. That seems to jive with what racerdb is saying. Also, I don't think that rule would translate up to the marathon distance, as too much happens in the last 10k.
Speaking of racerdb. Wow Dave, nice run! Less is not always less. And KP, your mile that about jives with your interval workouts from a few week's back...now that we've poo-pooed trying to connote the two. Haha.
Alan B., I'm not sure a dress-rehearsal would work too well for me, and I especially don't think I could ever use an actual HM race for such....I could see myself holding to the plan for a mile or so, but after that, if I was feeling good, my competitive juices would kick in and I'd just go for it. If I ventured to guess, I'd say your yoyo-ing was probably the result of trying to hold back under race conditions, when your natural tendency was to race.
Mike L, I totally understand what you mean about feeling like there is/should be more there and that there are governors in place (from time constraints and non-running related fatigue, to more basic neural or tendon limitations, etc.) that make it hard to tap into. I'm happy to take what I can get....and hopefully get to the startline (one of these days!!) healthy.
MikeF, too bad you couldn't make it to Eugene. As to the Carlsbad masters races, I guess it was more tactical this year as socal such mentioned in his thread entry (hard to imagine a masters race of 15:40 as tactical---it's all relative, isn't it) A couple of really nice times at the Sac Town 10-miler: Kevin Castille besting the US 40-44 record, Brian Pilcher @56 running sub-56. I wonder how many can run under their age in minutes in a 10-miler. I think he is the only one that did at this race....the age-grade % bottoms out at 86.17% around age 72 (...but now I'm just wasting time.)
Thanks Alf T for chiming in. Sorry about your bad luck and bad weather.
GreteHund, tough loss for UMich. Louisville won this battle of equals.
A lot of good motivating stuff this week, as per usual! Thanks!