BTDT wrote:
At least he knows what it takes to have a real budget where you are responsible for it.
You wouldn't happen to have any idea on how many times Trump or his companies have declared bankruptcy, would you?
BTDT wrote:
At least he knows what it takes to have a real budget where you are responsible for it.
You wouldn't happen to have any idea on how many times Trump or his companies have declared bankruptcy, would you?
BTDT wrote:
Wow, how embarrassing. It took Donald Trump to get what no one has been able to do for 3 years....get BHO to release his birth certificate.
No, wrong. He's released it - just not the "one" you and Trump wanted. Hawaii has been saying for the last 3 years that he was born there. Wow, I guess it's Trump's way or the highway. Oh, this is awesome! Trump looking like a complete fool for the entire nation to see. What a douche.
I can't help it: Trump...YOU'RE FIRED!
Apparently I spoke to soon. From the publishers of the book mentioned above:
"We're gratified that our work has begun to pay off. The certificate of live birth is an absolutely vital foundation for determining constitutional eligibility of any president. We look forward to reviewing it like so many other Americans do at this late date. But it is important to remember there are still dozens of other questions concerning this question of eligibility that need to be resolved to assure what has become a very skeptical public concerning Barack Obama’s parentage, his adoption, his citizenship status throughout his life and why he continues to cultivate a culture of secrecy around his life."
Read more: White House releases Obama 'birth certificate'
http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=292165#ixzz1KjcneLbn
Can someone fill me in on the adoption theory?
Instead of debating the issues each side tries to smear the other. Obama can't just be a bad president, he's un American, the anti-christ, and a Muslim. George Bush can't just be a bad president he's an idiot, a pawn of Dick Cheney/Karl Rove, and evil.
Test123 wrote:
The whole birther issue makes me embarassed to be an American.
plus one
Obama got Trumped. I got to hand it to the Donald, he got under Obama's skin.
Where did I lump all conservatives together? The think tank conservatives are all embarrassed about it, I'm sure. But who cares about them? The idiotic darlings of the right wing are doing quite a job trumpeting this bullshit.
Illogical wrote:
Dont lump all conservatives together. Many of them are calling for a stop to this. Rightfully so. It's like poking a bear with a stick. You're just trying to piss off the bear. There's bigger fish to fry; A record 15 trillion in debt, record deficits, health care. If conservatives stick to the issues and stop trying to poke the bear then the bear will go away soon enough.
Keep in mind that you can get a Hawaiian birth certificate without actually having been born in Hawaii or the US at all. So the questions still won't stop.
Trump wrote:
Obama got Trumped. I got to hand it to the Donald, he got under Obama's skin.
Yeah, the baby finally got his bottle.
bad tactics by the President, should have waited till Trump got the nomination.
Wejo,
The adoption theory goes something like this:
Lolo Soetoro (Obama's stepfather), either signed an acknowledgement acknowledging Obama as his son or Lolo Soetoro adopted Obama, giving Obama natural Indonesia citizenship which explains the name Barry Soetoro and his citizenship listed as Indonesian.
Oh Barry wrote:
I always said that once Obama produces the the long form birth certificate, then I'm convinced. Argument over. It shows time of birth, doctor, and hospital. That's good enough for me. As for the others who doubt this, STFU.
Kudos to Trump.
Good for you. At least that is one person who will now STFU about it. Somehow I doubt that is going to be a widely embraced response.
Not sure if GWB was a bad president, but was a bit of a pawn of Dick Cheney, at least for a while.
wejo wrote:
George Bush can't just be a bad president he's an idiot, a pawn of Dick Cheney/Karl Rove, and evil.
The real question is how this will affect the POTUS' 5k time. I think it will cost him 2 minutes as least.
wejo wrote:
Instead of debating the issues each side tries to smear the other. Obama can't just be a bad president, he's un American, the anti-christ, and a Muslim. George Bush can't just be a bad president he's an idiot, a pawn of Dick Cheney/Karl Rove, and evil.
Reasonable point on the surface, but can you really equate the rationality of the arguments against GWB and the current ones against Obama? Some of the loudest arguments against Obama have centered on his ethnicity, religion, birthplace, and intelligence (grades in school). That these issues have any traction is just shameful. Kick and scream about the deficit and health care bill, but enough about the his race/ethnicity/religion.
The major issue with Bush was a question of whether he rushed to WAR. It is a reasonable question regardless of where you come down on the issue. WAR is kind of a big deal. It requires a fair amount of certainty in terms of justification and planning and he was a little weak on both fronts in my opinion.
A Daddy Rock wrote:
I always knew Obama was a US citizen, but I thought it was odd that he didn't want to show proof. To me, it was like someone interviewing for a job with me and claiming to have gone to Harvard or UNC and then refusing to show me a transcript or diploma. I would not hire that person.
If I had someone interviewing me ask me for my diploma I'd think they were a conspiracy theory nut job. Wait until I've given you a reason to question it, at least.
But in the end, who gives a crap? Isn't it about the job you do? Degree/place of birth are your past, not your present. I don't care where my employees went to college and I don't care where my president was born. Maybe that's just me...
Illogical wrote:
Do you really need this explained to you? He's had plenty of time to release it dating back to the campaign before he was president. But he refused! Now because Obamas poll numbers are dropping and someone has surged to the front of the pack of potential presidential contenders and made Obamas bc a primary issue he decides NOW to release it.
A cowardly caving under pressure.
What is it about the word "re-releasing" that you do not understand?
Might be smart move, if true.. wrote:
The major issue with Bush was a question of whether he rushed to WAR. It is a reasonable question regardless of where you come down on the issue. WAR is kind of a big deal. It requires a fair amount of certainty in terms of justification and planning and he was a little weak on both fronts in my opinion.
That's why I like Obama now that he rushed to bomb the hell out of the Libyans at a moment's notice. He's quicker and more efficient than Bush with getting down to the business of WAR, sidestepping congress and any explanation to the American people. Come'on Syria!
Pants on Fire wrote:
That's why I like Obama now that he rushed to bomb the hell out of the Libyans at a moment's notice. He's quicker and more efficient than Bush with getting down to the business of WAR, sidestepping congress and any explanation to the American people. Come'on Syria!
Number of US troops killed in Libyan conflict: 0
Number of US troops killed in Iraq conflict: 4450
I don't think anyone other than Bush, Cheney, and Rumsfeld have any idea why we went into Iraq.
Enough of this silly stuff. I just want to know why the President got snubbed by Prince William and Kate?
oieneodndsf wrote:
[quote]Pants on Fire wrote:
That's why I like Obama now that he rushed to bomb the hell out of the Libyans at a moment's notice. He's quicker and more efficient than Bush with getting down to the business of WAR, sidestepping congress and any explanation to the American people. Come'on Syria![quote]
Number of US troops killed in Libyan conflict: 0
Number of US troops killed in Iraq conflict: 4450
I don't think anyone other than Bush, Cheney, and Rumsfeld have any idea why we went into Iraq.
More proof that Obama is better at WAR than Bush ever was. I'm not sure who understands why we're protracting a civil war conflict in Libya, though, so no advantage there for Obama.