DID SOLINSKY JUST RUN 3:35?

kartelite wrote:

lol lol lol lol wrote:

Shouldn't a 12:55 guy be able to do 3:35 rather easily?

Not to knock a fine performance, but HE ran faster than CS 51 years ago.

I was thinking the same thing. I can't think of anyone who's medalled in the 5k who hasn't run 3:26 - low 3:30's (or been capable of it anyway).

Awfully short memory.

I don't quite get those of you who are belittling Solinsky's accomplishment. Chris aspires to be great, not just great for a white guy or an American but truly great without any qualifications. He should be commended for that. If you think he's deluded ... fine; you're entitled to that opinion. But Solinsky BELIEVES he can be great. Specifically, he thinks that if he works really hard and trains himself to acquire the required skills and abilities that he can beat the Africans who now dominate the world lists.

Nobody is more aware of the gap that exists between himself and those that are ranked ahead of him than Chris is. He responds to that by trying to get better. For the last few years he had a 3:37 PR. Now he he's run 3:35. That's another sign that he's improved. If one chooses to be negative and scoff, okay, but this IS a significant accomplishment.

Congratulations Chris Solinsky and good luck the rest of the season.

toothpaste no doubt.

26mi235 wrote:

kartelite wrote:

I was thinking the same thing. I can't think of anyone who's medalled in the 5k who hasn't run 3:26 - low 3:30's (or been capable of it anyway).

Awfully short memory.

Who?

Bekele hasn't run faster than 3:32.

He still outkicks a 3:26 guy regularly.

kster wrote:

Bekele hasn't run faster than 3:32.

He still outkicks a 3:26 guy regularly.

"regularly...? possibly, but not all the time certainly. And you are talking about a "3:26 past-his-prime guy". And of course a different 3:26 in-his-prime guy outkicked Bekele in their only 2, and hugely important, match-ups.

fff wrote:

1992 was prior to the African revolution.

Someone forgot to tell the 8 Africans that world-ranked (top 10) in the 5000 that year (or the 5 in the 10,000, 6 in the 1500, and 6 in the Steeple).

cbrb wrote:

I don't quite get those of you who are belittling Solinsky's accomplishment. Chris aspires to be great, not just great for a white guy or an American but truly great without any qualifications. He should be commended for that. If you think he's deluded ... fine; you're entitled to that opinion. .......

No offense, but you completely missed the point. WE are not belittling Sol's 3:35. WE expect him to run that fast because we know he is that good. YOU (and some others) apparently still don't realize how good he is. WE are only belittling those that think that an almost 3:36 is amazing and surprising for a 12:55 guy who has shown has has some wheels. I think it was a very good race and promises well for the rest of the year, but it is entirely what I would hope/expect for a runner of his caliber.

Tyrannosaurus Rexing wrote:

iloveunderdogs wrote:

RE: DID SOLINSKY JUST RUN 3:35??!?!?!??!?!?!??!?!?!????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

.

Yes he did, he absolutely did. Actually it was almost 3:36. This is almost exactly 10 seconds off the current 1500 wr. If you do the math on this, you would realize this equates to running 33.3 seconds slower than the 5k record (5k is 3.33 x the distance of the 1500). Now bear with me here:

12:37 + 33 = 13:10

Yes, Chris Solinsky, who routinely ran 12:55/56 last summer, just ran the equivalent (with the premise that the 1500 and 5000 records are of equal quality) of a 13:10 5000 m race last night. Of course 1500 is not his best event, and he demonstrated a nice kick, however, now that I put some cold hard #"s on his time..... ARE YOU STILL FREAKING OUT MAN!??!?!

Good perspective ^ .

Look, to all you folks freaking out about how great Chris' 3:36 is, please get a clue.

1) Nice race. Props to Chris.

2) This result should surprise nobody. This is not some sort of breakout performance. It is basically in line with Chris' recent achievements.

3) Don't you realize that the folks that Chris will have to beat for an Olympic or WC medal in the 5000 can all go 3:32 or better?

Please get a clue. You are great examples for the thread "Things that runners do that make it embarrassing to be associated with runners" or whatever that thread was called.

Gerald Lambeau wrote:

Check your math.

3:35.89 1500m is equivalent to 11:59.64 5000m.

Please say you are not really that stupid.

Not sure how anyone can say anything other then this is a solid race, about what I and probably he would expect right now. Chris is perfectly capable of running 3:32-33 while busting out those 12:55s and 12:56s in Europe. Adam Goucher ran 3:36 and 13:10... Chris is way better then AG ever was. Teg has run, what, 3:34? Fam has run 3:34 or 3:35, no? I think we would all say those guys are distance runners, not milers, and all have run faster then Chris ran today.

Having said that, it was solid, about where he should be right now, and he raced really well. Solid performance and I would imagine, feeling right on schedule.

kartelite wrote:

I was thinking the same thing. I can't think of anyone who's medalled in the 5k who hasn't run 3:26 - low 3:30's (or been capable of it anyway).

26mi235 wrote:

Awfully short memory.

kartelite wrote:

Who?

Not only a short memory, but a glutton for punishment too.

Here is the way it is wrote:

(with the premise that the 1500 and 5000 records are of equal quality)

1500m WR is much much stronger than the 5000m WR.

fff wrote:

1992 was prior to the African revolution.

Oh really? When did this revolution start?

In that race, Baumann kicked past 4 Africans in the last 200m. Among those 4 was the reigning Olympic Champion in the 10,000m (Brahim Boutaib), and the man who would become the first to break 27:00 the very next year (Yobes Ondieki). At the time the WR's for 1500m, 3000m, 5000m, the Steeple, and the Marathon were all held by Africans. Do you really want to insist that the Africans weren't any good then?

in 1995 when HG lowered the WR to 12:44.

Well said. This board is filled with the sort of self-hating racists who will insist based on a snapshot in time that White Men Can't Run...then they'll probably turn around and post on other names that Black Men Can't Think.

Of course Solinsky should be able to run 3:35. He should even be able to run it closing in 54, as he did. The really impressive part is that he's doing it in April, when he is clearly targeting the World Championships in August, like every other elite runner (and yes, he is an elite runner) in the world.

no, i actually have a fields medal...

P.Whelan wrote:

Here is the way it is wrote:

(with the premise that the 1500 and 5000 records are of equal quality)

1500m WR is much much stronger than the 5000m WR.

Actually, I did not write with that premise. So, you are mistaken.

But, just for kicks, let's pretend that your response makes some sense. For your point to be valid (backing up the claim of Gerald Lambeau) you would need to be claiming that the 1500 m WR is roughly equivalent to a 11:27 5000m. I find that to be somewhat unlikely. How about you?

To help you avoid further embarrassment:

Bernard Lagat - 2007 1500m/5000m World Champion (3:26.34 1500m PR)

Hicham El Guerrouj - 2004 1500m/5000m Olympic Champion (3:26.00 1500m PR)