No, but I am truly a Bannister wannabe in that our athletic aspirations are similar. (Which is probably why my coach jokingly calls me "Roger").
Hey, maybe your right. wrote:
med school runner? who are you, Roger Bannister?
No, but I am truly a Bannister wannabe in that our athletic aspirations are similar. (Which is probably why my coach jokingly calls me "Roger").
Hey, maybe your right. wrote:
med school runner? who are you, Roger Bannister?
Based on PRs I got the 800, mile, 3k, 5k. I would place in the high jump/long jump. The races are slow enough where I could sit and kick in all of them so that would help.
Let's see: Nothing under the 400. I don't know what my 400 capability is, but almost certainly not better than 55. Could probably pop off a 2:03 right now in the 8, so that's 10.
Mile: 10
3k: 10
5k: 10
DMR: 0
Field events: no way I'm throwing anything very far. Can't high jump, and even if I could my max would probably be like 5-8. Can't pole vault. Might be able to long jump 19 feet. Still no points in field events. Can't triple jump. So no, I couldn't possibly win the women's championship. Oh well.
like most letsrunners here i'm sure i have sub 51 400 meter speed.
old coach man wrote:
You skinny milers cant score in the shot put or the weight throw against these ladies. Go find a high school track and pick up a girls shot. Add close to a pound to it and throw it 55ft. You wont even break 40 with the high school girls.
I find it amusing that you know nothing about me besides what I put in my post yet you feel you can accurately speculate my shot put. If one day in high school I spent 20 minutes playing around with the boys' shot at practice one day and threw it a bit under 40, I would assume that now, being five years older, I could break 40 with the high school girls' shot, thank you very much.
Men/boys trying to compare their athletic feats to women/girls is pathetic beyond words.
asasdfas wrote:
40 pts (800, mile, 3000, 5000) even with the heats is a walk in the park for any 1:55/4:15 type miler. The only question is how many sprint points in the 200/400 you can score and if you could pull off any of the field events.
Those are almost exactly my marks, and I would easily cruz through the 4 distance events. I have some solid under-distance speed, as any 1:55 or faster guy has to have, and could score in the 400 (probably 2nd after all of the other events), but the 200 would be iffy. Fresh I would throw up points no problem. But it would come down to the day on how fresh I felt.
I could scratch out some LJ points, and if I worked on it HJ but right now I may get 1-4 points in the LJ.
Equinox2100 wrote:
I could scratch out some LJ points, and if I worked on it HJ but right now I may get 1-4 points in the LJ.
Bullshit, 20'-7" is pretty far for even a high school dude, and that was 8th place, double bullshit on ever being able to jump 6'+ while also being able to sweep the distances. You can't run solid distance and be a solid jumper, they are diametrically opposed abilities.
My PR's (long ago) would win the 400, 800, mile, 3000 and 5000, second in the long jump and scrape some points in the 200.
Couldn't do that in two days with the rounds.
P.Whelan wrote:
Equinox2100 wrote:I could scratch out some LJ points, and if I worked on it HJ but right now I may get 1-4 points in the LJ.
Bullshit, 20'-7" is pretty far for even a high school dude, and that was 8th place, double bullshit on ever being able to jump 6'+ while also being able to sweep the distances. You can't run solid distance and be a solid jumper, they are diametrically opposed abilities.
I jumped well over 6' in high school with a 31" (approximate) vertical ability. I'm sure there are lots of milers in the 4:15 range with verts over 30". That's not exactly spectacular. HJ is largely about technique. We had a guy on the team in college whose vertical was around 35-36" and his high jump PR was 7'3".
I also jumped over 20' in high school with that 31" vertical ability. Granted, a large part of LJ ability is based on sprint speed. My speed in high school was 11-low. I guess that sort of 100m speed is not common among decent distance runners, but again, it's not spectacular. I'm sure there are plenty of 4:15-range milers out there who could scare 11 flat in the 100.
I agree that there is probably a whole lot of straight-up bullshitting going on in this thread, but those jumps by the girls at the NCAAs were basically decent high school boys marks. Certainly not out of the question for a good 800/1500 runner. Not typical either, but definitely not ridiculous.
toro wrote:
My PR's (long ago) would win the 400, 800, mile, 3000 and 5000, second in the long jump and scrape some points in the 200.
Couldn't do that in two days with the rounds.
I think this is on the money. Rounds are hard. People are basing this on their PRs, but how many of you could run every one of your PRs in one weekend? Also, I'm pretty sure 9:xx wouldn't be a walk in the park for any of you unless you're El G or Bekele, not with rounds and little rest. I think, for instance, Rupp could win the 800, mile, 3k and 5k and score in the 400 and 200 but probably no points in the field or sprint events. How many of you are better than him?
including rounds, we're looking at 1200 m. of basically all out sprinting (400 and 200 prelims and finals)+1600@4:10 mile pace (800 p+f) 3200 @ 4:30 mi. pace (mi. p+f), 3000@9:13, 5k @16:04, AND a DMR a 10:52? So that's 16,400 meters. How many of you think your bodies could physically withstand 82 laps around an indoor track at this pace?
Conclusion: most of you are dreaming. I think, however, that a 49/1:50 and 4:10/14:30 guy could jointly sweep it. One could win the 60, 200 400, The other the 3000 and 5000, and go 1-2 in the 800 and mile. That'd be 86 points for a lock.
I think that you don't realize how easy 2:00/4:30/9:00/16:00 is for a 4:15 miler, even with half the allotted time. Rupp can run sub 4:15 for 5k pace, which is way overkill ability for this challenge.
Dear [Female] Troll,0/10. You fail to understand the purpose of this thread, which is about beating the winning times from the meet in a challenging workout with the same time schedule. There's no point in comparing ourselves DIRECTLY to female runners, we all know this.Sincerely,Med Student Runner
How Pathetic R U wrote:
Men/boys trying to compare their athletic feats to women/girls is pathetic beyond words.
P.Whelan wrote:
Bullshit, 20'-7" is pretty far for even a high school dude, and that was 8th place, double bullshit on ever being able to jump 6'+ while also being able to sweep the distances. You can't run solid distance and be a solid jumper, they are diametrically opposed abilities.
"Being able to sweep the distances" is pretty much a joke in this context. There are a good number of pure 800 guys who could do that and probably even a couple 400/800 types. They would definitely have the speed down the runway to get out a good long jump...
In fact, when I was in high school there was a guy in my state who ran 1:55 and TJ'ed 45-8. I don't know if he kept going but if he progressed decently in college he could have been a 1:51/50' guy. Right there he's got the 400, 800, mile, LJ, and TJ in the bag. Needs to scrape 10 points out of the high jump and 3K (I assume he would skip the 5K because it's on the first day and would tire him out too much).
No, you can't expect to PR in 7 or 8 different events over the course of 2 days, but the average male college runner (of which there are probably quite a few on these boards) wouldn't need to PR to win many of these women's events. For example, a 2:04 wouldn't be terribly taxing for many Letsrunners. Granted, many guys on the LR boards exaggerate their times. But come on, there are plenty of dudes here who could run 2:04 with plenty left in the tank. Same for many of the other events.
And for those of you who are irritated at the fact that guys are comparing themselves to females. Get over it. We're just shooting the shit here. It's not a big deal. We know we're not hot shit just because we could beat some chicks in a few track events. Like Med School Runner said.....it's just an interesting workout challenge. Not worth being an asshole over.
How many people think they could get 40+ on top HS freshman boys? You would need to be a 1:52/4:15/9:01(3200)/probably something in the high 14s type runner.
TK1451 wrote:
old coach man wrote:You skinny milers cant score in the shot put or the weight throw against these ladies. Go find a high school track and pick up a girls shot. Add close to a pound to it and throw it 55ft. You wont even break 40 with the high school girls.
I find it amusing that you know nothing about me besides what I put in my post yet you feel you can accurately speculate my shot put. If one day in high school I spent 20 minutes playing around with the boys' shot at practice one day and threw it a bit under 40, I would assume that now, being five years older, I could break 40 with the high school girls' shot, thank you very much.
You are right and I am sorry for judging you. But I also know from years and years of observation that when you can run fast miles, 3ks and 5ks you are not a very good thrower. Have any other folks on here seen this fact of nature before?
There is a reason why throwers throw and runners run. Only a few get to do both.
You may be different and you might be able to launch the girls shot over 40ft. I was just trying to say in general most of the folks on here could probably not run a winning mile, 3k, and 5k and score in the shot put or weight throw.
Let me look at this schedule and see what I could do.
I will remove myself from the 200 since the rounds go between the 800 prelim and 5000 final and then again after the 5000.
[indoor PR's: 400m 50., 800m 1:51.5, mile 4:04, 3000m 8:26, 5000m (none- 14:55 road), LJ 21 feet]
Friday
4:00 Mile prelim- cruise 4:38 to qualify
4:15 LJ- may be difficult to pop 21 feet after the mile, still could get points here
5:00 400 prelim - easy 53 flat to qualify
6:00 800 prelim - easy 2:05 to qualify
7:05 5000 final - Can I run 16 flat after the earlier intervals with an hour rest? Likely
Saturday
5:00 Mile final - win that in easy 4:30
5:40 400 final - 50.7 to win. could do that on 30 min rest. at least get 2nd which was 52.3
6:20 800 final - should be able to handle 2:03 on 25 min rest for the win
6:40 3000 final - About 15 min rest and 4th interval of the day. 9:13 to win should be no problem fresh. That may get a bit gritty on short rest
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