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15 years ago 02/21/2011 4:33pm EST

I just found out that my biggest rival in the 1600 meters just ran 9x400 in 64-65 with a 200 jog. His best time for 1600 meters is 4:21, and my best is 4:22.

Our big race against each other is not until late April but here is my question. Right now I have done 12x400 at 67 second pace with 100 meter jog. My coach tells me not to worry and that I will beat him in late April. But I am worried that he is gtting the jump on me and doing much faster workouts than I am. Should I ask my coach for faster workouts or should I stay with the plan? The coach is pretty good, and he did get me to peak late in the season last year. But Im afraid my rival has a head start on me and that Im gonna be toast when we race each other in 8 weeks. Any thoughts from the LR crowd?

15 years ago 02/21/2011 4:39pm EST

re: Steven R3

Steven R3 wrote:
I just found out that my biggest rival in the 1600 meters just ran 9x400 in 64-65 with a 200 jog. His best time for 1600 meters is 4:21, and my best is 4:22.
Our big race against each other is not until late April but here is my question. Right now I have done 12x400 at 67 second pace with 100 meter jog. My coach tells me not to worry and that I will beat him in late April. But I am worried that he is gtting the jump on me and doing much faster workouts than I am. Should I ask my coach for faster workouts or should I stay with the plan? The coach is pretty good, and he did get me to peak late in the season last year. But Im afraid my rival has a head start on me and that Im gonna be toast when we race each other in 8 weeks. Any thoughts from the LR crowd?

Tell you, your coach to train you harder.

15 years ago 02/21/2011 4:50pm EST

re: Steven R3

Your personal best is 4:22 (65.5 pace) and you are running 12x400 in 67 seconds! Are you kidding me? Is your coach moving you up to the 3200 meters or does he want you to have endurance but no speed. Seriously Steven, your rival is getting the jump on you. He is getting used to his PR pace right now, and then he will continue to get faster until 63's feels easy to him. You on the other hand, will get used to 67's now, and then you will be working hard to get used to 64's and 65's when its time to run fast.

You are behind the 8-ball son. You better get faster soon because 8 weeks is not a lot of time. I suggest you start doing 9x400 in 64 secs and catch up to your rival when it comes to training. Good luck and let us know how it goes.

15 years ago 02/21/2011 4:58pm EST

re: Coach Dyer

I think that 12x400 in 67 seconds is a pretty decent effort this early in the year. Keep in mind that it's still only February. But as Coach Dyer above me suggested, it's probably a good idea to start picking up the pace by a few seconds anyhow. Good luck, man!

15 years ago 02/21/2011 4:59pm EST

re: Coach Dyer

I think the response is a Troll

You are fine with that workout! you might finish with a 10 min jog and do a few 200s at goal pace. the Strenth of your workout beats the other guys.

More importantly never worry about what the other guys workouts are. Focus on your races coming up. Also focus on 3 weeks of solid workouts not one.

15 years ago 02/21/2011 5:49pm EST

re: steady fast

that workout is fine...you dont have to be running goal pace, it's a strength workout, plus im sure youre not wearing spikes so take that 67 and convert it to 65. concentrate on form and breathing on similar workouts and you will really get the benefits

15 years ago 02/21/2011 5:54pm EST

re: D.B.I.

Just don't race him. Do the 3200 instead.

15 years ago 02/21/2011 5:54pm EST

re: D.B.I.

D.B.I. wrote:
that workout is fine...you dont have to be running goal pace, it's a strength workout, plus im sure youre not wearing spikes so take that 67 and convert it to 65. concentrate on form and breathing on similar workouts and you will really get the benefits

WHOA! Spikes worth 8 seconds a mile? Nobody told me!

15 years ago 02/21/2011 6:10pm EST

re: newname

Listen to your coach. Please.

15 years ago 02/21/2011 9:10pm EST

re: Steven R3

It seems to me that your big race is not next week, not in two weeks, it is in eight weeks.

So, you need to learn that your coach is actually doing the right thing by staying away from PR race pace for your 400's in February. You are getting a solid foundation that will carry you through the season. If your coach is smart, you will progress during the season, and your paces will get faster and faster during the next two months. My money is actually on you to beat your rival in eight weeks.

15 years ago 02/21/2011 11:44pm EST

re: }{}{(*

You\\\'re coach is doing a great job of conditioning you at this point, but a horrible job at preparing you mentally. grow some balls and beat the guy. a 1 second PR difference comes down to balls. BIG HUGE F-ING BALLS

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