Thanks. I would love to see a video of the entire race if anyone has a link.
I read Elliott's autobiography "The Golden Mile" as a 14 year-old after joining my high school XC team back in the mid 1960s. I must have checked it out from my school library at least a dozen times and read it in study hall instead of doing my homework.
As a kid looking for some sort of meaning in life, Cerutty's holistic philosophy of training the whole body and mind in a natural environment really resonated with me at the time.
..the greatest mid dist race ever......(although if u put Bayi first i wouldn't disagree.....)
Well, it wasn't a race. It was a demonstration, a domination, by Elliot.
We need more "Stotanism." Cerutty was a wack job but he obtained results.
http://www.coolrunning.com.au/general/2001e003.shtml
The notorious Portsea training camp...
Somehow, it all seems in a different, more mystical world than what was happening over the Tasman; Lydiard, Snell and the Waiatarua.
No offence but even though this is a phenomenal race by Elliot, as a race its not close to the Bayi 1974 CWG victory, which had breakthrough front running at speeds thought previously to be impossible, a fantastic home straight finish (as Walker looked for a time like he might get Filbert) and three guys breaking the world record (Jipchos 3.33.16ET for 3rd is a superior mark to Ryuns 3.33.1h)
Thanks for the footage. Really kicking up cinders with every stride, 300m to go, 1:34 into the video.
J Dubs wrote:
No offence but even though this is a phenomenal race by Elliot, as a race its not close to the Bayi 1974 CWG victory, which had breakthrough front running at speeds thought previously to be impossible, a fantastic home straight finish (as Walker looked for a time like he might get Filbert) and three guys breaking the world record (Jipchos 3.33.16ET for 3rd is a superior mark to Ryuns 3.33.1h)
No. The change from cinder to all-weather surface is worth something, right? If you say 1/2 second per lap, Bayi's winning time is roughly 3:34.0, slower than Ryun. And you can "adjust" all the rest of the times accordingly.
It is a courageous race, and I was a real Bayi fan at the time. But one needs to "interpret" those final times a bit.
The greatest mid distance race ever was this one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOvgxVjO-8o
Fastest last 800 ever run in a 1500-1:46.7.
coach d wrote:
The greatest mid distance race ever was this one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOvgxVjO-8o
Agreed. Most pressure. Most drama. Most rewarding.
old tymer wrote:
J Dubs wrote:No offence but even though this is a phenomenal race by Elliot, as a race its not close to the Bayi 1974 CWG victory, which had breakthrough front running at speeds thought previously to be impossible, a fantastic home straight finish (as Walker looked for a time like he might get Filbert) and three guys breaking the world record (Jipchos 3.33.16ET for 3rd is a superior mark to Ryuns 3.33.1h)
No. The change from cinder to all-weather surface is worth something, right? If you say 1/2 second per lap, Bayi's winning time is roughly 3:34.0, slower than Ryun. And you can "adjust" all the rest of the times accordingly.
It is a courageous race, and I was a real Bayi fan at the time. But one needs to "interpret" those final times a bit.
mate, what are you talking about? I was making the comparison between the 1960 1500m and 1974 CWG 1500m races. What does Jim Ryun have to do with any of those races - he wasn't even in them?
Oh wait, just another typical American nationalistic pride rant about Ryun. Yeah yeah, we know - guy could have run 3.25 on Mondo, whatever. All I know is that Peter Snell whooped him in '64 and Keino mangled him by 3 seconds in '68
J Dubs wrote:
Oh wait, just another typical American nationalistic pride rant about Ryun. Yeah yeah, we know - guy could have run 3.25 on Mondo, whatever. All I know is that Peter Snell whooped him in '64 and Keino mangled him by 3 seconds in '68
Is that all you know? then you don't know very much. Peter Snell whupped a 17 year old high school boy at Tokyo. The next year an 18 year old Ryun whupped Snell, and would run faster than anything Snell has ever done.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_E-R97LShwAKeino, born and raised at altitude beat Ryun ONCE, at 7200 foot altitude. Wanna take a guess how many times Keino has ever beaten Ryun in a race?