One of the more interesting LetsRun threads I've seen.
One of the more interesting LetsRun threads I've seen.
Two questions:1)Are you two living together?2)Are you sexually attracted to any other men?
Extra-marital sex, yes. A few one-night stands (really a misnomer since I never stayed the night.) An actual affair, no. That to me implies repeated encounters with the same person and I have never done that. Each time I've had sex with another woman it has only increased my desire for my wife.
I'm not gonna get into a debate like 'happily married' about this. You asked, I answered. One day you'll be grown-up and you'll understand.
Quite simply: many people want their (wedding) cake and eat out too.
Since there has been anything like marriage in society, royalty and the rich have had "cocubines" and mistresses, pool boys and gigolos the like. Having both the material security of a marriage with the adventure of "sex only" relationships is a "package" that many people find irresistable. That is why so many ongoing cheaters won't even consider breaking up the marriage.
Polygamy is an "approved" means of trading security (for the female) for variety (for the male). Now that women in our society can provide their own security, they want the variety as well, so we have the female "approved" version of polygamy: serial monogamy (i.e."we just grew apart").
Dear diary... wrote:
Extra-marital sex, yes. A few one-night stands (really a misnomer since I never stayed the night.) An actual affair, no. That to me implies repeated encounters with the same person and I have never done that. Each time I've had sex with another woman it has only increased my desire for my wife.
I'm not gonna get into a debate like 'happily married' about this. You asked, I answered. One day you'll be grown-up and you'll understand.
don't come at us with the older/more experienced-than-thou bulls h i t.
happily married wrote:
I do not feel it's wrong and sleep well at night (with my head next to my wife's). The fact that she would not agree is irrelevant to me.
When you really love someone, their feelings matter to you. One day you will realize this and the guilt will be unbearable.
neanderthal dream wrote:
happily married wrote:I do not feel it's wrong and sleep well at night (with my head next to my wife's). The fact that she would not agree is irrelevant to me.
When you really love someone, their feelings matter to you. One day you will realize this and the guilt will be unbearable.
No, he probably won't. Most people don't ever figure out what real love is.
For anyone interested, go read The Art of Loving by Eric Fromm.
Best of Luck.
I think a way to demonstrate true love is to give up your own life without hesitation if it meant saving the person you love.
And for the people who have had affairs, I think your husband or wife would end up dead. Go ahead, post that YOU wouldn't do that -- YOU of course aren't like that. Sex is just a physical blah blah blah. But when it comes down to it, if ever you were in such a situation, I would wager my own life that you wouldn't give up yours.
No libido wrote:
. I used to all the time, and now I never do.
Really? Why the change? Women in their 30s should be in their peak. This is not a myth. I might believe you when you say you are love with your bf if you said that you were NEVER sexually attracted to anyone ever. But you used to want it. I don't think sex is the be all to end all in a relationship, but don't you wish you were with someone you wanted to pounce at least once in a while? Maybe I'll be wrong but I think one day you'll meet someone that makes you weak in the knees (and other things) and you'll be confused. I hope you do. Assuming you don't have a physical problem, which I hope you don't.
I'm sure that Happily Married abuses his wife to keep her self-esteem low, so that even though she has her gut instincts about his disgusting, narcissitic tendencies, she does not have the courage to deal with it or leave him because she doesn't know/believe she is worth more than this piece of shit she has for a husband.
Knobender wrote:
I'm sure that Happily Married abuses his wife to keep her self-esteem low, so that even though she has her gut instincts about his disgusting, narcissitic tendencies, she does not have the courage to deal with it or leave him because she doesn't know/believe she is worth more than this piece of shit she has for a husband.
+1 -- let's hear her post
I have found that married women are the best lay.
They know what the meeting is all about. SEX.
They want to save their marriage. They just want sex with another guy.
After, I leave or they leave.
Goodbye!
It's the perfect date.
The Judge wrote:
Come back soon my small brained friend.
Congrats. You have mastered the add hominem attack. Shows integrity.
[quote]The Judge wrote:"So we can assume you totally honest about everything you do and think with your spouse?"
Ummm. Yes.[quote]The Judge wrote:
You lost all credibility here.
Well.... wrote:
You don't get to make a claim like that without backing it up.
Show us the statistics or stop making up stuff.
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That's far from a "vast majority"
Fair enough. Vast majority is extreme. But that is not a small number and certainly shows that it is extremely common and that fidelity is certainly not the norm. Most of these studies are also really hard to read as people are rarely honest.
This thread is a parade of bad and familiar arguments:
You are wrong in your opinion because you are a bad person; you are wrong to cheat because you would not want your wife to cheat on you; cheating is wrong because of the consequences (to you or your wife or your children), in this life or the afterlife; having sex outside your marriage is a violation of your original oath; having sex outside your marriage is bad because it will make you feel guilty or cause you a disease; etc.
my contribution is the amusing words from the communist manifesto, much of which is actually pretty realistic:
"But you Communists would introduce community of women, screams the bourgeoisie in chorus.
The bourgeois sees his wife a mere instrument of production. He hears that the instruments of production are to be exploited in common, and, naturally, can come to no other conclusion that the lot of being common to all will likewise fall to the women.
He has not even a suspicion that the real point aimed at is to do away with the status of women as mere instruments of production.
For the rest, nothing is more ridiculous than the virtuous indignation of our bourgeois at the community of women which, they pretend, is to be openly and officially established by the Communists. The Communists have no need to introduce free love; it has existed almost from time immemorial.
Our bourgeois, not content with having wives and daughters of their proletarians at their disposal, not to speak of common prostitutes, take the greatest pleasure in seducing each other's wives. (Ah, those were the days!)
Bourgeois marriage is, in reality, a system of wives in common and thus, at the most, what the Communists might possibly be reproached with is that they desire to introduce, in substitution for a hypocritically concealed, an openly legalized system of free love. For the rest, it is self-evident that the abolition of the present system of production must bring with it the abolition of free love springing from that system, i.e., of prostitution both public and private."
Knobender wrote:
I'm sure that Happily Married abuses his wife to keep her self-esteem low, so that even though she has her gut instincts about his disgusting, narcissitic tendencies, she does not have the courage to deal with it or leave him because she doesn't know/believe she is worth more than this piece of shit she has for a husband.
Nope, not even close. She is better educated (JD), more well read with a more powerful career. I'm the first to admit she is smarter than me. I make a bit more money, and she considers us equals.
Sorry, but I just don't feel the occasional BJ or HJ is cheating. This is not a weekly or monthly habit. I can count on two hands the number of experiences I've had over our 15 year marriage (and 20 year relationship). It's not a habit that is addictive because it's always been opportunistic, i.e. out of town on business (and I don't travel frequently).
The last thing I got was a HJ last January at a strip club. Sorry that I don't feel any guilt. We average sex about once a week and we both initiate.
No one in our immediate families have been divorced. My parents just celebrated their 50th anniversary, her mother is widowed. Our brothers and sisters are all married 20+ years.
I'm not trying to justify my behavior, but I am not a troll. Everything I have stated is fact. If it makes you feel better to call me a piece of shit and that my wife knows, etc. go ahead, but you would be wrong on both counts.
Destroyedbycheating wrote:
And as for Mr. Happily Married, just because you are doing it with hookers and strippers does not make it any better. You are sick man paying into a sick, abusive industry. Do you have daughters? How would you feel if when they grew up they turned tricks giving dirty old men like you hand jobs and BJs. Shameful.
I do have two young daughters. I like Chris Rock's opinion on this matter:
"Sometimes I am walking with my daughter, I'm talking to my daughter, I'm looking at her, I'm pushing her in the stroller. And sometimes I pick her up and I just stare at her and I realize my only job in life is to keep her off the pole.
"Keep my baby off the pole!
"I mean they don't grade fathers but if your daughter is a stripper you fucked up."
Happily married, what do you think your wife would do if she found out? Or would she even be upset?
Greetings,
My name is CDUUUUUBBBBBBBB. I come from the internet. I have had several affairs before, most of which are with other people. I am currently in one right now.
As for your survey, I don't think I should apply to your polling since I am currently employed as a pimp daddy.
I hope my input has helped.
With love,
CDUBBBBBBBBBBBBB
I'm 30 and got married too young. I was married at 21 - fresh out of college. I had no idea who I was or what I really liked.
I started having affairs around 25. I found women were extremely attracted to me when I was 25-28. I was young, but not too young, and made money.
I used to laugh and high five my drinking buddies about how much of a "crazy guy" I was doing this. They seemed to cheer my exploits.
As the years have passed I've sort of parted with my mid-20's good time buddies. What am I left with? My wife.
She is my best friend and I can't take back what I did while on the drink. Sometimes when I go to sleep at night I feel pretty lonely even though I'm lying right next to her. I think about the 20-some-odd women I cheated on her with and it doesn't feel pimped or cool. I feel lonely.