“When I came to Alberto, I thought I was done being hurt,” Ritzenhein said. “But this is the longest cycle of injuries t

MAYEROFF wrote:

This may be the case with Mr. Ritzenhein, however that's between him and his docs. I get a full workup of all my minerals, vitamins and anti-oxidants 2x a year in Bangkok. Costs about $300 bucks total and well worth it. I travel with a huge bag of supplements...multi-vitamins, vitamin C, Manganese Amino Acid Chelate, Zinc Gluconate, Calcium Lactate, Magnesium Citrate and Magnesium Chloride, Copper Gluconate, Co Q-10, Acetyl L-Carnitine, etc. etc etc

D3 is much more important.

Make sure you test for D and supplement as needed.

MAYEROFF wrote:

I don't know if Mr. Salazar has examined Mr. Ritzenhein's micronutrients such as copper, manganese, zinc and anti-oxidents, but it would be worthwhile.

I've generally stayed more healthy by taking daily doses of copper gluconate, manganese, zinc, alpha-lipoic acid, CoQ10 and acetyl L-carnitine.

I hope that Mr. Ritzenhein and all runners have a great 2011.

Mayeroff get off the computer and come back to bed!

The Monk wrote:

And I'm sure Salazar's probably got that figured.

Salazar is pharmaceutical-centric. There's a lot that conventional medicine and nutrition overlooks.

Whiskey Tango Foxtrot wrote:

The Monk wrote:

And I'm sure Salazar's probably got that figured.

Salazar is pharmaceutical-centric. There's a lot that conventional medicine and nutrition overlooks.

I did not know that. I expected better of him.

and this is why i thought that he wouldn't PR in new york. The marathon rewards a couple of years of uninterrupted training and Dathan, who has freakin' boatloads of talent and drive, simply is too fragile to ever get two or three years of no injuries so taht he can run the 2:06 or 2:07 his talent should be capable of. Really sad too. I'd love to see him really knock a marathon out of the park.

I actually think that hte marathon that he most realized his talent was in the 2008 Oly marathon. While he saw it as a disappointment, as did Hall, Coming in the top 10 against the most insanely run Oly marathon is no failure. he truly got the best he could out of himself that day. If anyting, i wish that he had been able to go with rothlin to vie for that 6th spot.

Nicely stated

Are you drunk??

It made sense to me despite a few typos. Maybe you have problems with reading and comprehension.

You must be drunk or ignorant, too!

The horrible typing was just a superficial clue regarding the dippy content that was being attempted here.

I thought that Salazar's program was especially known for the battery of tests that it performs on its athletes for diagnosis of potential deficiencies, both nutrition and biomechanics related?

I would think that if anyone were to have already isolated and dealt with the problem, it would have been Salazar and his team.

Count me in with the group that believes what we are seeing now is a temporary stagnation in Dathan's development under Salazar, due to a lack of the one thing he needs most: Steady, uninterrupted, injury-free training and preparation for the marathon that allows him to pile on high mileage. We have already seen what years of this base under Hudson translated to after some sharpening under Salazar. Time to restart that cycle and leave his stride alone.

RRRR wrote:

Count me in with the group that believes what we are seeing now is a temporary stagnation in Dathan's development under Salazar, due to a lack of the one thing he needs most: Steady, uninterrupted, injury-free training and preparation for the marathon that allows him to pile on high mileage. We have already seen what years of this base under Hudson translated to after some sharpening under Salazar. Time to restart that cycle and leave his stride alone.

Yep. Train like a marathoner; focus on the track. It was his recipe for success in 2009, as it was for Solinsky this year. Dathan already has a top 10 in an Olympic marathon, beating America's best marathoner in the process, and he's not going to do any better than that. He should focus on the track in 2011/2012, and then if it's money he's after, he can chase the marathon after that. He ain't gonna be PRing on the track in 2016, that's for sure.

HA-ha wrote:

You must be drunk or ignorant, too!

The horrible typing was just a superficial clue regarding the dippy content that was being attempted here.

Then you better add me to the list of drunk AND ignorant.

IMO Ritz is not a marathoner...not really; too fragile.

Didn't Ritz move from Boulder to Portland because he was constantly getting injured running the Boulder Creek "crete"?

Also, Saladbar has a hi-tech doctor on retainer...why do you think all his athletes wear a Breath-Rite nasal strip.

Saladbar has his athletes (particularly Rupp) doing the OPPOSITE of what he did as a runner....eg. Rupp racing the 800.

Too many fine runners (Ritz, Aish, Mayeroff) chase the marathon, when they would be better off "settling" for shorter distances.

PS Ritz's Olympic marathon was one helluva performance for a non-marathoner. Just because you are built for the marathon doesn't make it "your event".

Fair enough????

I'll agree that your analysis is of the typical Letsrun variety. Listen to malmo, mileage doesn't cause injury, regardless of whether it is on the 'crete. Shut this "too fragile" nonsense, clowns. Everyone is "too fragile" when they overdo it in training. Running your best marathon doesn't require anyone to overdo it in training. Since when is Breathe-Rite "hi-tech"? It's a placebo, at best. Just because Salazar might seem to "think different" doesn't mean that the strategy is truly wise. Even if Ritz is, according to the implication in your assertions, not a marathoner why shouldn't he still run a faster marathon than Benji Durden, Alan Culpepper, David Morris, Ron Tabb, Dick Beardsley, and Jerry Lawson all did without all the "hi-tech" testing and toys? Just because he hasn't yet doesn't mean that he won't, yet he's run, what, five marathons now? Looks like the main limitation might be having poor advisers preparing him for his marathons.Mushmouth writing aside, I'd agree that the poster who said that he wanted to see a cramping Ritz go with Rothlin in Beijing had to have been drunk, if not on booze then on his own beliefs.

silly old fossil wrote:

Then you better add me to the list of drunk AND ignorant.

IMO Ritz is not a marathoner...not really; too fragile.

Didn't Ritz move from Boulder to Portland because he was constantly getting injured running the Boulder Creek "crete"?

Also, Saladbar has a hi-tech doctor on retainer...why do you think all his athletes wear a Breath-Rite nasal strip.

Saladbar has his athletes (particularly Rupp) doing the OPPOSITE of what he did as a runner....eg. Rupp racing the 800.

Too many fine runners (Ritz, Aish, Mayeroff) chase the marathon, when they would be better off "settling" for shorter distances.

PS Ritz's Olympic marathon was one helluva performance for a non-marathoner. Just because you are built for the marathon doesn't make it "your event".

Fair enough????