Footlocker Winners, How did they fare after?

how soon after? wrote:

https://www.marianapolis.org/athletics/team-details/results-details/~occur-id/401962

double double

... and 56 points for the week.

Tangled up in Blue wrote:

That Verzbicas guy from 2009 hasn't done XXXX.

If all you knew about someone was that they won TWO FLCCCs and ran 3:59 and 8:29 in HS, but you knew a lot about running, you would think that this guy must have run 7:28 / 12:52 / 26:40. Hard to believe how little he accomplished after quitting running.

woosh

So we are calling everyone a failure who got into a life changing accident? He was running fast enough to be successful in college with no improvement.

Agreed. Olympics are more prestigious than World Championships, but winning a World Championship medal is far more impressive than qualifying to the Olympics. The only difference is the year really.

Matt Withrow is managing an Applebees.

The Overexplainer wrote:

Tangled up in Blue wrote:

That Verzbicas guy from 2009 hasn't done XXXX.

If all you knew about someone was that they won TWO FLCCCs and ran 3:59 and 8:29 in HS, but you knew a lot about running, you would think that this guy must have run 7:28 / 12:52 / 26:40. Hard to believe how little he accomplished after quitting running.

And if you think that those two things are statistically equivalent you are very wrong. Verzbicas certainly was one of the best HS runners ever but he is in a reasonable sized group for that honor. However, those times you quote would make someone the best american distance runner ever as all three are at or under the AR. Now, he certainly did not have the post HS career I am sure he any many expected but there are a lot of reasons for that - and that is why there are no sure things in running.

Kiss of Death wrote:

2005 17:05 Jordan Hasay 9 WE Mission College Prep Arroyo Grande CA San Diego, CA

2006 17:29 Kathy Kroeger 10 SO Independence H.S. Franklin TN San Diego, CA

2007 17:20 Ashley Brasovan 11 SO Wellington H.S. West Palm Beach FL San Diego, CA

2008 17:22 Jordan Hasay 12 WE Mission College Prep. Arroyo Grande CA San Diego, CA

2009 17:07 Megan Goethals 12 MW Rochester MI San Diego, CA

Without knowing more about these races, Hasay winning in 2005 and 2008 seems remarkable. A handful of people won two titles, but I suppose she's the youngest winner. Was she close in 2006 and 2007?

Also interesting that the two winners in between were soph and junior so all 3 went through all 4 years together.

DeBron Lames wrote:

Matt Withrow is managing an Applebees.

Can anyone confirm this? Maybe being an Applebee's manager pays better and I higher on culinary arts food chain than I think? Maybe he's coaching on the side? I just cant imagine somebody going from Footlocker champ to "You can put them at table 7, and remind them of the drink specials, or they're free."

say it aint so Joe wrote:

DeBron Lames wrote:

Matt Withrow is managing an Applebees.

Can anyone confirm this? Maybe being an Applebee's manager pays better and I higher on culinary arts food chain than I think? Maybe he's coaching on the side? I just cant imagine somebody going from Footlocker champ to "You can put them at table 7, and remind them of the drink specials, or they're free."

if you look up matthew withrow on linkedin, he is actually an account manager for Adidas. It's definitely him because it looks like him and he has track/field stuff listed in activities.

He also currently a volunteer track coach at Madison High School.

[quote]Kiss of Death wrote:

Here's the list of all the past winners, boys and girls. How'd each fare afterwards? What % did something? A really interesting experiment might be to compare the post high school careers of those that won to those that finished last in the meet. Was there a difference?

Here I got through a few:

Year Time Athlete Gr Reg Highschool City St Course

1979 15:05 Brent Steiner MW Overland Park KS San Diego, CA: Broke Ryun's State 2M record and was 7th NCAA XC as a Senior, injury derailed attempt to qualify for 1988 Trials at 10000m.

https://ks.milesplit.com/articles/141096-remember-me-brent-steiner

1980 14:53 Jay Marden W CA San Diego, CA ran 13:42/3:43/28:00; a principal in Big Sur

http://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=56594&page=2

1981 14:51 Charles Alexander SO Richmond VA Orlando, FL ran 8:55 as a senior/coach's training was conservative but he knew no one else on the line had done the work he'd done/Lydiard hill workouts on golf course, plus 14 mile long run and fartlek were main work/went to Stanford/ran 3:50/8:08/13:59/29:35 and later 2:18:45 marathon

https://va.milesplit.com/articles/16192/catching-up-with-the-1981-kinney-nationals-champion-charles-alexander

1982 14:35 Eric Reynolds W Somis CA Orlando, FL; 8:09/8:44 2M in high school, battled injuries at UCLA but managed to be team captain and run at nationals xc/has worked in real estate and insurance claims, works for Ventura School District:

http://venturacountysportshalloffame.org/inductee/eric-reynold/

1983 14:54 Matt Giusto 12 W Foster City CA San Diego, CA 3:38/3:55/7:41/8:42 steeple/13:23/27:59/44:41 15k/won a U.S. title, withdrew from a world team or two from injury

1984 14:50 Scott Fry 12 MW Sandusky OH San Diego, CA; 4:08/8:08, 8:46; 5th NCAA xc; 8th in 5k and 12th in 10k at 1988 and 1992 Olympic Trials, respectively

http://www.irontontrack.com/OHLegends.html

Damn, that comment about Molly Seidel aged poorly lol

What accident? Didn't she have anorexia? Julia Stamps was the one I remember having a bad accident

They're both sarcasm dude

It was a joke.

Here is an interesting story about Brasovan.

irunfar.com

From the Mountains to the Sea: A Profile of Ashley Brasovan

Alex Potter

We talk to competitive trail runner Ashley Brasovan about the sport, her environmental work, and her love for scuba diving.

Link:www.irunfar.com/ashley-brasovan-profil...

Giusto was also a 96 Olympian at 5000 meters. He didn't make the final.