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Imagine that you have a choice: Die after 100 years of torture or live for eternity. You literally could not die for eternity.
See, heaven does not sound very good either. Not to mention a heaven contingent upon forced values focussed by a worship that would no longer exist.
I would go find Dan Gilbert and punch him in the face with my fist of flames.
That isn't what Hell is like! Haven't you ever read Dante's Inferno? He also discusses his observations of Purgatory and Heaven if you are interested.
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Hell is the absense of God. So, if you reject God, then you will go to hell. Hell isn't necessarily all flames and torture and stuff. It's just a life without God. I guess you could compare hell to earth. Whereas heaven you are engulfed in God's love and are eternally happy. If you look to God for happiness, then you will probably go to heaven. If you look to worldly things, then you will probably go to hell.
So I guess hell isn't that bad, but heaven is really really good.
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Imagine waking up engulfed in flames. And imagine that those flames would go on forever and ever without any relief. Imagine that your body would not burn up and turn to ashes. Your body would not go into shock or adapt, but just continue to burn forever.
How do you think you'd cope?
I like the way it hurts.
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An Historian wrote:That isn't what Hell is like! Haven't you ever read Dante's Inferno? He also discusses his observations of Purgatory and Heaven if you are interested.
Well clearly I don't believe Dante's "Inferno" to be divinely inspired.
It isn't divinely inspired, because inspiration wasn't needed. Dante personally went to Hell, then Purgatory, then Heaven, and recorded his impressions in verse. with one book dedicated to each location. Beatrice, a resident of Heaven, sent the Roman poet Virgil to guide Dante through Hell and Purgatory, then guided him through Heaven herself.
So, Dante certainly had a better idea than you do of what Hell is like, seeing as how he actually visited the place!
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God seems like a really angry guy. I mean, the worst people just kill their victims. He tortures them in a terrible way for the rest of eternity. The least he could do is give you a way out, or something.
Ho Hum wrote:
God seems like a really angry guy. I mean, the worst people just kill their victims. He tortures them in a terrible way for the rest of eternity. The least he could do is give you a way out, or something.
More like Christianity, at least many forms of it, being a pretty idiotic and perverse "religion."
"Christianity will go. It will vanish and shrink. I needn't argue with that; I'm right and I will be proved right"
--John Lennon--
We musn't offend our great Comrade and Leader!
Not all Christians believe in Hell: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_salvation
Nothing terribly wrong with the idea of Christianity. I'm just wondering where the idea of Hell comes from, given that it isn't in the Torah at all (and would seem to conflict with the idea of an all-loving, merciful God). I'm not a religious scholar or anything so I'm legitimately wondering what Christian thought on this is.
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Ho Hum wrote:Nothing terribly wrong with the idea of Christianity. I'm just wondering where the idea of Hell comes from, given that it isn't in the Torah at all (and would seem to conflict with the idea of an all-loving, merciful God). I'm not a religious scholar or anything so I'm legitimately wondering what Christian thought on this is.
Read Mark 9:46.
The Hebraic concept word Sheol is not what most Christians think of as Hell. It was introduced into the New Testament, as only it could be, because it presupposed the final, spiritual judgement and second death mentioned in Hebrews. God is all-loving and merciful, but, he is also just. Thsi article may help:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hell_in_Christian_beliefsHo Hum wrote:
Nothing terribly wrong with the idea of Christianity. I'm just wondering where the idea of Hell comes from, given that it isn't in the Torah at all (and would seem to conflict with the idea of an all-loving, merciful God). I'm not a religious scholar or anything so I'm legitimately wondering what Christian thought on this is.
My guess would be that, in the world, bad people are sometimes happy and successful, and good people are sometimes miserable failures. So, to make themselves feel better and to not feel like a chump for being good, people made up the idea of places where bad people are punished and good people are rewarded. This idea found it's way into almost all religions, including Christianity, in some form or another.