Has anyone tried out either/both of these shoes? I'm looking for a good lightweight trainer. I recently had the Saucony Kinvara for a bit, which I initially liked, but I found that it was a bit too roomy and wore down relatively quickly (I usually get a lot of miles out of my shoes). I'm a big fan of the Nike Skylon but Nike discontinued it.
bump. waiting to hear reviews.
in my experience Brooks LAUNCH are the best
although i havent tried the latest speedstar 5, only the 4
another shoe you might like is the Brooks Ghost 3
also, Asics just came out with a DS-SkySpeed, a neutral fast-paced tempo-type trainer
I'm on my 3rd pair of the Speedstar (first 2 were version 3, current version 4), and am on my second pair of Launch. I'm sold on the Launch. Maybe it's just the way I run (midfoot striker), but something in the Speedstar makes a slapping sound when my foot hits the pavement. That's not the case with the Launch. Maybe it's a slightly softer outersole, since I do see faster wear in the Launch, but it's still no problem getting 600 miles.
I've had 3 pair of Speedstars (2x #2, 1 pair of the 3s) and one pair of the Launches. Even compared to the older versions of the Speedstar that I prefered, the Launch seems like it's better suited for everyday training. You'll get more mileage out of it, similar weight, a bit softer without giving up a fast feel.
It will still be a while, but New Balance has what looks to
be a really great Neutral Lightweight Trainer coming out. The 890. Due feb 2011. It's about time New Balance. They have some great shoes coming out in 2011.
DS Sky Speed looks interesting, anyone tried it? Also, does anyone have any experience with the Adidas Adizero?
My all time favorite shoe is the Skylon, but the Pearl Izumi Streak is a close second. Give it a try.
nyloco wrote:
I'm on my 3rd pair of the Speedstar (first 2 were version 3, current version 4), and am on my second pair of Launch. I'm sold on the Launch. Maybe it's just the way I run (midfoot striker), but something in the Speedstar makes a slapping sound when my foot hits the pavement. That's not the case with the Launch. Maybe it's a slightly softer outersole, since I do see faster wear in the Launch, but it's still no problem getting 600 miles.
I second everything said above. I've been told the speedster is made for heel strikers. This is true for a lot of shoes but because of the plastic in the speedstar mid foot it's particularly awkward to mid or forefoot strike.
Will the 890 be anything like the 826? That's still my all time favorite performance neutral shoe.
Is the Launch a neutral shoe? I'm trying to avoid any of those shoes that have over/underpronating compensations.
and any opinions on the Adizero/new DS one?
thanks guys!
Can't speak to the Kinvara, but I am pleased with the Launch.
Launch is very neutral. no plastic bridge! best shoe ever!
I use the Launch for my everyday trainer. I love the shoe.
I have 10 pairs of shoes that I rotate and they are all good and serve a purpose. If I was allowed to have only 1 type of shoe for everthing from racing to recovery runs,I would pick the Launch.
I found the launch too soft. I think it contributed to an achillies injury. I'm getting two pairs of Brooks for free. Anyone have any experience with any of the other Brooks lightweight shoes? Are any of them firmer then the launch?
I have over 500 miles on a pair brook's launch and it's still feels great. I use them as a high mileage trainer. The asics sky speed is the ds trainer without the post. The speed star is a mess that asics can't seem to get right from year to year. The kinvara is just as good as the launch but has half the heal to toe ratio at only 4mm. The launch as about 10mm. I'm not sure how many miles I can get out of the kinvara. I'm only at 123 miles. I use them as a high mileage trainer as well.
the ds trainer "without the post"? what's that mean? and do you know what the heel to toe ratio of the skylon is? I generally prefer a smaller heel to toe ratio
thanks!
RickD wrote:
I use the Launch for my everyday trainer. I love the shoe.
I have 10 pairs of shoes that I rotate and they are all good and serve a purpose. If I was allowed to have only 1 type of shoe for everthing from racing to recovery runs,I would pick the Launch.
^^^^^ This.
I was upset for months after the Skylon was discontinued and went thru a few diffent models until I finally found the Launch. Kudos to Brooks for making such a great shoe: great cushioning and durability. It's even slightly lighter than my Skylons, not su how they did that. Definitely one of my all-time favorites.
pleas shar you opineon wrote:
Has anyone tried out either/both of these shoes? I'm looking for a good lightweight trainer. I recently had the Saucony Kinvara for a bit, which I initially liked, but I found that it was a bit too roomy and wore down relatively quickly (I usually get a lot of miles out of my shoes). I'm a big fan of the Nike Skylon but Nike discontinued it.
the Mizuno Precision is way better than both launch and speedstar.
give it a try
which version of the mizuno precision?