US Olympic Trials
1. Goucher
2. Davila
3. Kastor
4. Flanagan
US Olympic Trials
1. Goucher
2. Davila
3. Kastor
4. Flanagan
Kara Goucher wrote:
I totally would have crushed Shalane if I ran today. My debut was so much faster and I ran against the best marathoner and my new best friend (Paula R.). Shalane played patty cake all day and thought she could sprint it in at the end. Try running a real marathon next time honey...now you see how hard it is Ms. 2:25!!! LOL!!!
Only teenagers write LOL in posts.
So I guess Keitany doesn't make the U.S. team either.
Shalane will wake up tomorrow and realize she was made to run the marathon. She beat Keitany, who has a half marathon PR that is two minutes faster. When the two Kenyans opened a gap with two miles to go, she could have just defended her position, with a podium finish in hand. But she battled back in the late stages of a marathon.
SHE BATTLED BACK IN THE LATE STAGES OF A MARATHON.
What had Mary run in the marathon before today? Shalane beat someone else who was in unfamiliar territory. Who was the fastest marathoner (over the last year) that finished behind Shalane? Please do not give us lifetime bests as they are meaningless.
1. She's Kenyan so no she wouldn't make the US team2. She (Mary) has half marathon credentials which don't necesarily translate into the full marathon3. They all JOGGED A GOOD 60% OF THE "RACE" SO NO SHIT SHERLOCK OF COURSE SHE WAS ABLE TO BATTLE BACK IN THE LATE STAGES OF A MARATHON BECAUSE IT WAS LIKE A WARMUP, TEMPO THEN 5K RACE TO THE FINISH!!!
PhysMech wrote:
So I guess Keitany doesn't make the U.S. team either.
Shalane will wake up tomorrow and realize she was made to run the marathon. She beat Keitany, who has a half marathon PR that is two minutes faster. When the two Kenyans opened a gap with two miles to go, she could have just defended her position, with a podium finish in hand. But she battled back in the late stages of a marathon.
SHE BATTLED BACK IN THE LATE STAGES OF A MARATHON.
You don't have a freakin clue. Numbers might not lie, but you have to think when using them. Beating the highly anticipated newcomer who has been torching the Half and finishing 20 seconds behind in NY in a debut needs to be understood and since you can only rank-order numbers you are useless as a commentator.
unfaithful wrote:
2:25:53 vs. 2:28:40 numbers don't lie jerk!
dreamin wrote:Shalane will smash Kara and the rest of the field at the US Olympic trials! Shalane is just a tougher competitor hands down and Kara will be left in tears.
Teyba Erkesso 2:23:53 in Houston
Christelle Daunay 2:24:22 in Paris
Inga Abitova 2:22:19 in London
No 26mi, beating another newbie who only has half-marathon credentials in a sprint finish after the entire field jogged most of the race does not compare to the fearless running of Goucher challenging the WR holder Radcliffe and battling those nerves throughout the entire race and still ending up with a faster time in harsher conditions. You need to understand that.
Shalane works hard. I can appreciate that.
You all are so quick to say that she's a crappy marathoner because she didn't run sub 2:25...well, Kipligat (the winner!) ran 2:28.20 AND has a previous best that basically equals Kara's 2:25 PR.
I guess we can all officially call Kipligat "slow" and conclude that she's on the fast track for failure since she was 3 minutes slower than her PR.
No one said she was crappy, just much slower than Kara in her debut and not that impressive even with her 2nd place finish. She was the one throwing the 2:25 time out there over and over in every interview.
wow!! wrote:
Shalane works hard. I can appreciate that.
You all are so quick to say that she's a crappy marathoner because she didn't run sub 2:25...well, Kipligat (the winner!) ran 2:28.20 AND has a previous best that basically equals Kara's 2:25 PR.
I guess we can all officially call Kipligat "slow" and conclude that she's on the fast track for failure since she was 3 minutes slower than her PR.
[quote]get a clue wrote:
They all JOGGED A GOOD 60% OF THE "RACE" SO NO SHIT SHERLOCK OF COURSE SHE WAS ABLE TO BATTLE BACK IN THE LATE STAGES OF A MARATHON BECAUSE IT WAS LIKE A WARMUP, TEMPO THEN 5K RACE TO THE FINISH!!!
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Let me guess, get a clue has never run a marathon. And if they have, they didn't learn anything from it.
I thought Shalane ran an incredible gutsy race. I have not seen many Americans, male or female, compete like that in a long time. Given that Kiplagat threw in a 4:48 mile near the finish and Shalane battled back tells me she had a lot left in the tank. I would guess she can run 2:22-2:24 on a faster course.
Deer Kara: Time to buy that minivan, get your Mommy Bowlcut and stock up the fridge with Ben & Jerry's to further widen up your fat butt on the couch while you watch me in London 2012. I am clearing a shelf in my trophy case for ANOTHER Olympic (i.e. REAL) medal, and it won't be another bronze.
Shalane looked great for her first marathon. I would be worried Kara.
yeah that why she was on all fours as soon as she crossed the finish line
runbaby wrote:
I thought Shalane ran an incredible gutsy race. I have not seen many Americans, male or female, compete like that in a long time. Given that Kiplagat threw in a 4:48 mile near the finish and Shalane battled back tells me she had a lot left in the tank. I would guess she can run 2:22-2:24 on a faster course.
Are you kidding? Kastor over Flanagan? Actually, I like the combination of Flanagan, Davila, Goucher (in no particular order).
PhysMech wrote:
Teyba Erkesso 2:23:53 in Houston
Christelle Daunay 2:24:22 in Paris
Inga Abitova 2:22:19 in London
Erkesso 2:31:06 (+7:13) 2:23:53
Daunay 2:29:29 (+5:07) 2:24.22
Abitova 2:29:17 (+6:58) 2:22:19
Average of 6:26 slower than their fastest times in the last year
flotrack is having the same debate
http://www.flotrack.org/forum/topic/2284-more-impressive-american-debut
Not fair to compare Shalane's time with Kara's. Two different races. You can't fault Shalane for the slow pace. As a first-time marathoner, I think she would've been nuts to force the pace herself early. She gave herself the best chance to win given the way the race unfolded. Just didn't have it at the end.
I look forward to seeing Kara and Shalane square off. I'm fans of them both.