Running with the team is shit. That is, if it's a championship meet. But a HOME meet? That's allll about seeing where your team is at. Team. Team. Team. Think about that word. Then think about "National Championship"
I would, 400 days out of the year, rather win a team national championship than an individual one. That way, you get fellow national champions to celebrate with.
There are only 365 days in a year.
Hatred holds you back.
otis wrote:
[quote]Evil Truth wrote:
Has there ever been a thread on Letsrun where some yahoo did not change the subject by whining about some silly pet peeve?
No, but I want to do it too: we really shouldn't call him the germinator. German+terminator=thing that helps plants grow. WRONG.
Everyone has been Soooo waiting for this day! There’s really no way to know what’s going to happen out there or how German will choose to run. They’ve all stated pretty clearly though what their intentions are – “To win as a team!” It was damn embarrassing for them last year to lose big time on their own home turf. I’m sure they want to avenge that loss and send “Stanfart” and others, a clear message! I say, that if German does go for the win, he’ll probably play it conservatively and not try to bust his balls over such an early meet!
the smith plan wrote:
this is all part of our plan. look, it would be easy for german to win all his races, but it's not that easy to fall down, get 116th, get sick, run with the team, you see what i'm saying.
Translation - I (the smith plan) am a frustrated mediocre runner who could not cut it at OK State and have not yet been able to accept my own mediocre talent level.[/quote]
One of the reasons I like German - and also Manzano - is that they had poor upbringings. This keeps them humble. German is a true blue collar runner. His guts and determination comes from that.
I can't relate to guys like Solinsky and Webb who had a cushy life. Webb grew up in Reston - one of the richest neighborhoods in the nation. Why shouldn't we doubt his motivations?
Manzano and German, on the other hand, have the same hunger/drive as Kenyans. They've been in the poor end of things where life was a struggle. They don't want to go back there.
agreed
That's an interesting theory often mentioned on various boards but what do you say say to someone like Gebrselassie who is now one of the richest men in Ethiopia and could have stopped running years ago to have a cushy life? Money or no money growing up really has little to do with an individuals love and positive contribution to the sport.
Didn't Solinsky grow up on a farm in Wisconsin? How is that a cushy life?
vietato wrote:
That's an interesting theory often mentioned on various boards but what do you say say to someone like Gebrselassie who is now one of the richest men in Ethiopia and could have stopped running years ago to have a cushy life? Money or no money growing up really has little to do with an individuals love and positive contribution to the sport.
It's safe to say that Geb's formative years were spent in poverty relative to the average American; carrying through that love of the sport and competitive drive makes sense. More importantly, you don't become as monster of a racer as Geb just by growing up in poverty. The poverty is an additional motivation, but psychologically he was just born differently from 99.9% of human beings in terms of his capacity to drive himself to exhaustion for the sake of beating other people.
Truth Sayer wrote:
One of the reasons I like German - and also Manzano - is that they had poor upbringings. This keeps them humble. German is a true blue collar runner. His guts and determination comes from that.
I can't relate to guys like Solinsky and Webb who had a cushy life. Webb grew up in Reston - one of the richest neighborhoods in the nation. Why shouldn't we doubt his motivations?
Manzano and German, on the other hand, have the same hunger/drive as Kenyans. They've been in the poor end of things where life was a struggle. They don't want to go back there.
This ^^^ is really dumb.
Most people don't have a clue about the motivation of the person who sits next to them in a cubicle, their own brother, or their spouse. Yet we somehow have some brilliant insight into total strangers based on a single dimension of their life that we don't even have any first hand knowledge of?
OKaaaayyyy...
otis wrote:
Evil Truth wrote:I hate this running with the team shit...
Has there ever been a thread on Letsrun where some yahoo did not change the subject by whining about some silly pet peeve?
That is pretty much the descriptions of the message board forums. haha
Bekele and Wanjiru both peaked when they were ~22.
Evil Truth wrote:
For a distance runner 25 > 19/20 years old.
Truth Sayer wrote:
One of the reasons I like German - and also Manzano - is that they had poor upbringings. This keeps them humble. German is a true blue collar runner. His guts and determination comes from that.
I can't relate to guys like Solinsky and Webb who had a cushy life. Webb grew up in Reston - one of the richest neighborhoods in the nation. Why shouldn't we doubt his motivations?
Manzano and German, on the other hand, have the same hunger/drive as Kenyans. They've been in the poor end of things where life was a struggle. They don't want to go back there.
lol solinsky worked on a farm growing up in central wisconsin.
UsedToBeKnowItAll wrote:
Bekele and Wanjiru both peaked when they were ~22.
Evil Truth wrote:For a distance runner 25 > 19/20 years old.
Lots of E. Africans, almost the majority peak at "22". Even if you believe the age claims, Americans do not have a history of peaking at those ages. German especially has much development since he began running late and has had long setbacks from injury.
german started running at the same age as most american distance stars.
haha! does anyone else think that "run as a team" has a different meaning to Girma? Good for him and the team but I can just hear it now.... "what part of 24:28 is so difficult to understand?!"
ken bob wrote:
german started running at the same age as most american distance stars.
yeah but how does German's training age compare to Chelenga's training age? That was what we were getting at
Really??? wrote:
Didn't Solinsky grow up on a farm in Wisconsin? How is that a cushy life?
Yeah, he did. Solinsky spent the summer before his senior year of HS working a landscaping job. Not what I'd call cushy.
otis wrote:
Has there ever been a thread on Letsrun where some yahoo did not change the subject by whining about some silly pet peeve?
Ironic isn't it.