She's thrown 69-1.5 with the women's shot. What could she throw with the men's shot? Is 47 or 48ft a reasonable guess?
She's thrown 69-1.5 with the women's shot. What could she throw with the men's shot? Is 47 or 48ft a reasonable guess?
Yeah, some of the oldtime EG women were able to crank the men's shot out around 50ft...
wouldnt that win the state open at most high schools by a lot?
round numbers
8.8 lbs is 55% of 16 lbs
8.8 goes 70 feet
16 pounds goes 39 feet
assuming equal efficency executing with the 16 pounder
what am I missing to account for the 10feet?
is the 4kg and 16 pounder the same size?
the euro gals threw about 50 ft, documented?
toe board toucher wrote:
round numbers
8.8 lbs is 55% of 16 lbs
8.8 goes 70 feet
16 pounds goes 39 feet
assuming equal efficency executing with the 16 pounder
what am I missing to account for the 10feet?
is the 4kg and 16 pounder the same size?
the euro gals threw about 50 ft, documented?
Reasonable questions here.
No, typically the men's shot is larger than the women's.
The keys to the put's distance: speed at release, angle of release, height of release (in that order). Though the men's shot has greater mass (= greater inertia), a strong/large woman, once she overcame that, had the ability to impart a good speed to it before release.
Or, more simply: the 8.8/16 ratio doesn't work. It doesn't work in the other direction, either: a 60ft (male) shotputter cannot put the women's shot 110ft.
The best women in any event can't compete with the elite prepsters.
For example, 1:53 versus 1:46
Or, 10.2-ish versus 10.56
at least 20 feet.
Nobody "throws" the shot. You put the shot. shot put. Got it?
keepitup wrote:
Nobody "throws" the shot. You put the shot. shot put. Got it?
It's considered a throwing event, isn't it?
tjrk wrote:
The keys to the put's distance: speed at release, angle of release, height of release (in that order).
Not necessarily in that order, angle of release can be much more important than speed.
Arch Stanton wrote:
tjrk wrote:The keys to the put's distance: speed at release, angle of release, height of release (in that order).
Not necessarily in that order, angle of release can be much more important than speed.
Yes, of course. If someone puts the shot straight down (or straight up), it doesn't matter how much speed s/he generates.
However, within the range of *likely* performances, speed is more important than angle.
Which is not to say that angle isn't important. It is.
tjrk wrote:
toe board toucher wrote:round numbers
8.8 lbs is 55% of 16 lbs
8.8 goes 70 feet
16 pounds goes 39 feet
assuming equal efficency executing with the 16 pounder
what am I missing to account for the 10feet?
is the 4kg and 16 pounder the same size?
the euro gals threw about 50 ft, documented?
Reasonable questions here.
No, typically the men's shot is larger than the women's.
The keys to the put's distance: speed at release, angle of release, height of release (in that order). Though the men's shot has greater mass (= greater inertia), a strong/large woman, once she overcame that, had the ability to impart a good speed to it before release.
Or, more simply: the 8.8/16 ratio doesn't work. It doesn't work in the other direction, either: a 60ft (male) shotputter cannot put the women's shot 110ft.
Vili is just as big as some of the top men's putters at 6'4 267.
The Old East German women could throw 18 meters with a 16lb shot. There were a some Soviet Women that could do this also.
In throwing it works out to about 2.5 to 3 feet per pound. So minus 17.5 to 21 feet which would give you a range of 48 to 51.6 with the 16lb depending on the athlete. My guess as big as Vili is i would think the top end.
Is there a letsput.com on the interwebs/
Do you have any documentation of East German or Soviet women hitting 18 meters with a 16-pound shot put? I know Werner Reiterer made claims like this in his book Positive, but upon inspection these appear to have been second-hand rumors.
What is the differential for a boy who would throw the 4K and their performance with the 7.26.
Should be the same for Vili.
I would guess 53 plus.
Certainly her reported Bench Press would give this.
Only here to correct her last name since Vili was a married name and that no longer applies.
She didn’t compete at the Continental
cup ‘14 and was not her dominant self at world indoors ‘16 so sadly I missed my opportunities to watch a winning performance by her