tubeman wrote:
Decker-Slaney ran 2:01.4 when she was a 5'0" 93 pound 14 yr old, so you have to cut her some slack. She had the talent.
she was doping as a 14 year old
tubeman wrote:
Decker-Slaney ran 2:01.4 when she was a 5'0" 93 pound 14 yr old, so you have to cut her some slack. She had the talent.
she was doping as a 14 year old
Technically, this thread is bogus because the OP technically lied in the subject line and made the correction in the message.Rowbury technically did not set the record but may have the record by brojo rules.
notsobe wrote:
Okay so technically Mary Decker-Slaney and Regina Jacobs are ahead of her... but really, shouldn't she have the record? Or at least #2 all time.
I watched Slaney's WC 1983 performances recently. She won the double gold leading the whole way each time. With rabbits, what could she have run?
I saw Regina run that 9:11 (later converted by T&F News). It was set in a mixed 5000m and she stopped at 2 miles. It was timed by her coach/husband and a few others including myself. She did run the time, but it clearly should not be included in any official lists
Mary Slaney tested dirty, when she was older she want to be young again. Don,t believe she was dirty when she was younger. She just wanted her youth back
Whose body doesn't change in the years after they turn 14? Get serious....
Red Glare wrote:
And her body changed between when she was 14 and when she was part of that Athletics West ship of doping rats in Eugene.
She is #2. Jacobs' improvement curve was way too steep - gave in to doping. Mary Decker is gifted with 50%/50% fast/slow twitch muscles. That plus her mechanics and her strong desire made her a champion.
So which one of these improvement curves is too steep? They all look about the same me to me. Around 22 they drop ~10s off the 1500m pr.Born 19631986 4:02.6 01/01/19861985 4:15.41 01/01/19851984 4:11.33 22/06/19841983 4:13.09 01/01/19831981 4:25.0 01/01/19811980 4:32.6 01/01/1980born 19862009 3:59.90 Eugene, OR 07/06/20092008 4:11.36 Luzern 16/07/2008born 19842010 4:01.30 Paris Saint-Denis 16/07/20102009 4:00.81 Zürich 28/08/20092008 4:00.33 Paris Saint-Denis 18/07/20082006 4:12.31 Bloomington, IN 01/07/20062010 4:05.96 New York City, NY 12/06/20102009 3:59.38 Zürich 28/08/20092008 4:06.26 Indianapolis, IN 14/06/20082007 4:15.93 19832010 4:03.91 Heusden-Zolder 10/07/20102009 4:05.21 Athína (Olympic Stadium) 13/07/20092008 4:07.65 Eugene, OR 08/06/20082007 4:05.55 Heusden-Zolder 28/07/20072005 4:14.57 Sacramento, CA 11/06/2005
5KMaster wrote:
She is #2. Jacobs' improvement curve was way too steep - gave in to doping. Mary Decker is gifted with 50%/50% fast/slow twitch muscles. That plus her mechanics and her strong desire made her a champion.
You have to assume they're clean until they're caught it's only fair and otherwise you may as well just follow a sport like football that doesn't care about PEDS.
registeredname wrote:
you think she was using as a 12 year old girl at orange hs
Do you mean while a 12-year old girl at Portola Jr. High?
meh wrong age. she eventually went to orange though, probably at 13 years old. i hope that clarifies it for you.
registeredname wrote:
meh wrong age. she eventually went to orange though, probably at 13 years old. i hope that clarifies it for you.
She entered Orange High at age 15