Steve Scott Shames himself - Wack Job OC Conservative.

music is happiness wrote:

Jimmy Carter was a lousy president, and doesn't deserve his Nobel Prize (much like Al Gore and Obama don't, but at least they're not murderers like Arafat!).

Steve Scott's "rant" is a breath of fresh air. Thanks, Steve.

You like the sound of babies crying

"Anytime (Jimmy) Carter's even mentioned on TV at all it bothers me because he made such a bad decision that affected so many people. It bothers me when he gets the Nobel prize, makes any kind of public appearance, it personally hurts me when he gets any publicity. He should have just packed up and gone back to his peanut farm."

Good job Steve. And I'm a whack job conservative too. Let me put it too you like this. A runner that bust his ass every day and doesn't cheat is a conservative. A modern liberal wants to benefit off the hard work of others.

T.L. the stallion wrote:

i agree with scott, carter was an @sshole.

Say what you like about Carter as a president, or his choice to boycott the Olympics (which I agree was a travesty) but to say he's an asshole takes away all your credibility. Carter was a great man even if he was a poor president (and a worse politician).

From the Orange County register article:

"Four years later Scott stepped to the line in the 1984 Olympic Games 1,500 final as the favorite"

I recall Scott being "A" favorite but not "THE" favorite.

"What I lost was the opportunity to get Olympic experience," said Scott, who finished 10th in Los Angeles"

Yeah, Bull. He finished 2nd at the WC the previous year. He had plenty of experience. He just prepared poorly and then ran a lousy race.

"at 32 he no longer had the strength to handle three races in three days and finished fifth. What I learned in '84, I couldn't use in '88, I was too old, Scott said."

Awe, come on! El G won both the 1500m and 5000m at age 30. Zatopek won 5000, 10000 and marathon age age 30.

Why was Carter such a bad president?

Dr. Dremo wrote:

If Steve Scott would've taken care of business at the '84 Olympics - when he was AT HOME in L.A., one of the best in the world (reigning WC Silver Medalist), and had the advantage of no eastern bloc athletes...

...then maybe he wouldn't be so bitter.

Newsflash to Steve Scott: it wasn't Carter that choked under pressure.

Correct answer above. Get over it Steve.

When is comes down to it you ran around in circles for our entertainment. When you understand that it might be easier to deal with your disappointment.

Prozac Nation wrote:

Why was Carter such a bad president?

Because at a time when the nation needed confidence, pride and determination, he could inspire none of those things.

Run Free or Die wrote:

Good job Steve. And I'm a whack job conservative too. Let me put it too you like this. A runner that bust his ass every day and doesn't cheat is a conservative. A modern liberal wants to benefit off the hard work of others.

you're closer to the truth than you think. Scott is a straight shooter. I think Carter is very smart though. politics at the end of the day is about power and money. you seriously think he got elected because he's a dumbass? he's throwing curveballs all day. but you can't see or understand because you are focusing on a straight ball. he hoodwinked, bamboozooled, and lapped you. and you don't realize it happened. that's how smart he is.

Now if the last olympics had been scheduled for IRAN, what Are the chances the conservatives would scream boycott... You see the group is good for one thing, being crybaby's. Scott is no exception to the rule. cry me a river.

I don't think you want to get into the cheating issue here. There has been plenty of innuendo about SS and steroid use.

ask anyone at the 1980 Olympic Trials??? Should we ask our athletes first for their opinion about political subjects? Should they form a consulting board? Of course, they were against it. They were robbed of their (in some cases) only shot at the Olympics. Was it the right time to allow the maximization of the propaganda of the Soviet Empire?

I would like to make a couple points about Steve Scott. I have no idea what his politics are but I feel fairly confident that "Wack Job OC Conservative" would not be accurate. For starters he lives in San Diego County. I don't want to speak for Steve but in my interview with him the feelings he has for Carter are pretty clearly based on how the administration really didn't know what they were doing with the boycott and then used the athletes during Washington trip as political pawns.

The second point which I think is clear in the story Steve readily admits he had to other chances at the Olympics and was unable to make the most of them. In interviewing him what seemed to upset him the most was how people like Don Paige and Virgin and others, either never got another chance (Paige) or went to later Games past their prime (Virgin). He also recalled all the threats and abuse people who spoke out about the boycott like Francie Larrieu and Dwight Stones had to deal with.

To call Steve a whiner is way off base. He is very candid about the politics of the boycott, his own Olympic disappointments and his feelings about what people like Don Paige were denied

johnny langenwanker wrote:

there is no comparison between seeking glory by running in circles and working to save the lives of millions of people. that steve scott said he is upset everytime carter's peace prize is mentioned makes me sick. grow the hell up. you're not that important. not in the face of that kind of suffering.

Wow! is this the Pot calling the Kettle black?

Not entirely accurate. A few athletes--definitely a very small minority--spoke up saying that they approved of the boycott and supported their president entirely. No, I can't come up with names right now but I'll see if I can dig up any. No, I'm not sure whether in hindsight they think it was a stupid decision.

whoa whoa whoa wrote:

Ask anyone who qualified for the 1980 Olympics. They ALL say the same thing - Carter's decision was idiotic. It has nothing to do with politics -- Carter's decision is universally laughed at.

So all you pro-boycott people must be pretty PISSED that the US team didn't boycott the Berlin Olympics in 1936?

Then again, it's not the same situation. The Soviets wanted to use their Olympics for PROPAGANDA. Nazis would have never stooped to propaganda.

Wendell Gee wrote:

T.L. the stallion wrote:

i agree with scott, carter was an @sshole.

Say what you like about Carter as a president, or his choice to boycott the Olympics (which I agree was a travesty) but to say he's an asshole takes away all your credibility. Carter was a great man even if he was a poor president (and a worse politician).

Wendell, with much respect for you, I think you picked the wrong horse here. Whether it was people in Congress, White House staff, Secret Service, reporters, or people who otherwise see Presidents when the cameras and recorders were off, Jimmy Carter was very, very disliked. It had nothing to to with politics, in fact, many of the most disillusioned were those who shared his politics.

His atonement period, from years of being a first class jerk, such as his work with Habitat for Humanity, is a nice step. I hope it's genuine. He always did have a public image very much nicer and polite that his reality in person. Carter was the political embodiment of the jerk athlete, entertainer, or rich man.

' don't quite understand your 9/11 point. Are you implying in some way that the US deserved 9/11?'

No - terrorism against civilians is always wrong

Are you saying that the US should have no dimplomatic relations with Israel?

No - but they shouldn't be financially supporting one side over the other. You only have to watch an American comedy to see why

As for the 2 invasions being different - well yes Afganistan Gov't asked the USSR for help. If the US & UK thought it was so wrong why din't we back Afganistan in a more substantive way?

Anyway onto more important mattters - any more pb's?

Was There In DC wrote:

His atonement period, from years of being a first class jerk, such as his work with Habitat for Humanity, is a nice step. I hope it's genuine. He always did have a public image very much nicer and polite that his reality in person. Carter was the political embodiment of the jerk athlete, entertainer, or rich man.

Oh yeah, he's a class act. Bullshit. When presidents who have served their time stand back for their successors, this jackass did nothing but badmouth Bush. Real class. Disagree with Bush all you want but you can't call him classless. He refuses to bash Obama although I'm sure he agrees with 90% of his policies.

Carter, the Jew hater. Isn't he called as the christian he claims to be, to protect Israel. Hypocrite.

People sure like to speak (type) in hyperbole around here....

Why is everything so black or white? Either Carter is an asshole or Scott is an asshole? Not so simple, I say.

Carter probably should not have boycotted the 80 Olympics. It helped no one, and made the US look silly and weak. Plus, yeah, all those athletes got shafted. I would probably be pissed about missing those games, too, if I were in the position. And Carter made some other grave mistakes as president.

Now, I will admit I don't know all the details of his presidency and political life, but to say that Carter does not deserve the Nobel Peace Prize shows a lack of understanding of what the man has done since leaving the presidency. His organization has helped broker treaties to bring peace/truces/cease fires all over the world. The organization has worked tirelessly to ensure that fair voting practices are upheld in fledgling democracies all over the world. This latter point alone, to give the common man AND woman a voice in the world, is deserving of the architect of it all to win the Nobel Peace Prize. Carter might have been an asshole while in office, he might have been an asshole as a person at some point...But he is a GREAT man, and a GREAT ambassador for the US and for democracies everywhere. Scott should be ashamed saying that the notion of Carter winning the prize turns his stomach - the boycott and the peace prize are totally unrelated and if Scott cannot recognize the good that Carter has brought in the world, then he sorely lacks vision and respect for others on this earth. Scott comes off as a crybaby saying all these things. Stick to the sports, Steve, because you clearly do not understand the rest of what is going on out there.

Conclusions: 1-Carter made a really bad choice on the Olympics (and may have been an asshole otherwise). 2-Carter is now a great man doing far greater things in this world that you or I or Steve Scott can fully wrap our brains around. 3-Steve Scott was a very good runner. 4-Steve Scott comes off like a whiny baby in this article.