GREGSON VS. WHEATING MONACO 1500!

wow, good call barrrrrroooooooo. at least the australian 1500 guys are really AUSTRALIAN.

gregson isn't running today, so you're all blabbering about nothing basically.

http://www.meetingdetanger.ma/english/program.cfm?event=1500m

Kafka wrote:

gregson isn't running today, so you're all blabbering about nothing basically.

wow that sucks

You were doing okay at the start there, boy, until your old tendencies returned. Am I "seriously brain dead" to believe Wheating, who SAID that he could have challenged for the win at Pre if he had put it all out there? He was 2 seconds out of the win. And at Paris, a race which I attended, he lost to Kaki by 1.1 seconds. Had he gone out in 3rd, 4th or 5th, he would have been out in around 51point, or just about right for a 1:43, because there are not a lot of even split sub 1:44's. Can you honestly say that he could not have challenged for a 1:43.5 win, or at the very least Mb's 2nd in 1:44.1 when he sped through most of the field at the end?

Kafka wrote:

gregson isn't running today, so you're all blabbering about nothing basically.

http://www.meetingdetanger.ma/english/program.cfm?event=1500m

Ummmmm...you're looking at the wrong race.

Humpty Dumpty wrote:

Kafka wrote:

gregson isn't running today, so you're all blabbering about nothing basically.

http://www.meetingdetanger.ma/english/program.cfm?event=1500m

Ummmmm...you're looking at the wrong race.

i highly doubt he will run today, and then run Monaco.

Current Conditions in Tangier, Morocco -

84 degrees

18mph winds

100m was won in 10.18 with some guys running 10.44... gonna be a slow day for racing.

Kafka wrote:

i highly doubt he will run today, and then run Monaco.

Wheating is entered in both. Why is it so difficult to imagine him running in both?

Kafka wrote:

Humpty Dumpty wrote:

Ummmmm...you're looking at the wrong race.

i highly doubt he will run today.

Corrected.

Kafka wrote:

gregson isn't running today, so you're all blabbering about nothing basically.

http://www.meetingdetanger.ma/english/program.cfm?event=1500m

well your a spastic huh?

Gregson is a very, very good runner. But it seems to me Wheating has run Gregson like times (and actually faster) in collegiate (even qualifying) races while Greson has been racing as a pro.

Gregsons lifetime best for 800 is well over a second slower than Wheatings, and is just over a second slower than the old mark wheating ran as a 3rd year runner and college sophomore. While Wheating has put more emphasis on the 800 in the past he has a mile PR of 2 seconds faster than Gregson and is about 1 second faster at 1500 meters.

Wheating has only run in 1 1500/mile race where he was really stretched in the past 3 years.

Like I said, Gregson is great and I expect him to continue to improve, but any meet director that knows the difference between racing in the NCAA and racing in Europe, and someone who comes up racing in a club system vs. someone who ran his first year of track as a high school senior without a team or coach at practice is going to know what's up. Add to that that Wheating is actually faster in the 800/1500 & mile at this point. Gregson has run 7:57 for 3000, but I'd be surprised if Wheating would get stuck at 7:50 right now.

Get your facts right.

Gregson has run 3:35, faster than Wheating. He set that time in Australia, not in a big European meet, and in a race that he WON with a big negative split. Comparing their mile times now is ridiculous, after the fact, as Wheating got dragged to 3:51 in a much faster race than international mile, which Gregson WON in 3:53. Gregson ran 7:57 when he was 19, with a 52s last lap (as witnessed, I was in the race), in a race that he WON by 6 seconds. You are dead right that Wheating has run faster over 800m, setting his PB in a big pro-European meeting!!!

Race goes out in 3:31 tonight, Gregson runs 3:32, wheating 3:35.

Finally, it's all silly arguing anyway. Everyone knows that middle distance runners born in America can't win medals at Olympic and World champs, whereas those born in Australia, the UK and New Zealand have a pretty good record for it. Based on that irrefutable fact I suggest that Wheating will account to nothing, whereas Gregson has a genuine chance of winning something far more significant than NCAAs.

Well if Gregson set his best marks in such poor/unlikely conditions like you stated, and has been racing professionally for a few years now, what has he been doing in between those races????

As mentioned, Wheating ran a single 1500/mile in the past few years that wasn't a collegiate sit and kick victory and yet comes up with a faster mile and 1500 than gregson (you can either take wheatings 1500 split or conversion, whichever suits you). As far as the 800 goes, it's not even close.

It might be worth pointing out that Gregson runs his fastest in races he can win, whereas it takes a race that Wheating can't win to see what his fastest really is.

Best of luck to both. Next summer hopefully they will both be on the same page and peaking for a 1500 meter world final.

i just want to know when i can watch gregson vs fernandez

bfd who cares, gregson is not american, and has anyone seen u.s birth certificate for wheating ?

hells yes! that would be awesome but germans out with osgood schlatters :(

Gregson runs a pretty handy 800m, but is really an 1500m+ athlete, comparing Wheating to Gregson as 800m athletes is laughable. Wheating is far superior in that area.

At 1500m / mile Gregson has not been beaten this year, he defeated Jeff Risely weeks after Risely easily bested the Gold and Silver medalists from Beijing.

Wheating ran his 3.51 in a race Gregson should have been in...

WHat do you think Wheating would have run had he been in the international mile?

greigting wrote:

Wheating ran his 3.51 in a race Gregson should have been in...

WHat do you think Wheating would have run had he been in the international mile?

3:52

greigting wrote:

Gregson runs a pretty handy 800m, but is really an 1500m+ athlete, comparing Wheating to Gregson as 800m athletes is laughable. Wheating is far superior in that area.

At 1500m / mile Gregson has not been beaten this year, he defeated Jeff Risely weeks after Risely easily bested the Gold and Silver medalists from Beijing.

Wheating ran his 3.51 in a race Gregson should have been in...

WHat do you think Wheating would have run had he been in the international mile?

Whatever it took to win. Wheating had too much left in the Bowerman mile. He fell asleep and had plenty left. Not saying that is great, just that he wasn't exactly struggling in at 3:51, in fact he was coming in faster than everyone in the race save maybe the winner. Going out even slower would have given Wheating even more blast that last 200.

If Gregson is a 1500+ runner, then + what?

His 800 mark is better than his 3K, and his 5K is not very strong (half a lap behind fernandez and derricks marks of last year). In fact both his 3K and 5K would not get him to NCAA indoors in either event.

Wheating runs a great 800-mile, but he winged a 70th place at NCAA's the year he came back from the olympics. He just popped in at the end of season and was beating guys who race at the ncaa 5K and 10K in track. Imagine what he could do if he ran cross like a cross country runner and actually put in a season.

Wheating will certainly challenge 7:30 someday when he wants to be adventurous.