• top 8 in the country?
      • RE: former 1500m All-American on The Bachelorette 6/22/2010 11:16AM - in reply to Angineer
      • top 8 in the country?
      • guy said he was top 8 in the country.

        True statement but really a little misleading.

        He was top 8 not including a ton of guys who went D1, a lot who went DII, a bunch in NAIA, even a fair number in high school. Not to mention a crap load of pros.

        hell, he could have run just the last 1500m of the DI NCAA outdoor 5000m the last two years and his 3:54 wouldn't have gotten him top 8.

        he should have said he was DIII All American. Then I would have respect for him. If he wants respect from his running pears, he just lost it.

        My wife and I watched this and she asked me about him, I said his comment is very misleading and any half decent runner in the US now thinks he is the aforementioned 'Douche bag.'

        - ( I am DI All American in the 1500m and sub 3:40 ( ps. my pathologist wife diagnosed his 'condition' after hearing his story right away so the 40 doctors he saw must all be idiots )
    • Butts
      • RE: former 1500m All-American on The Bachelorette 6/22/2010 11:48AM - in reply to top 8 in the country?
      • Butts
      • I would guess the producers told him that the story was less impressive when he said D3, so just stick to saying top 8.
    • Morocco Mole
      • RE: former 1500m All-American on The Bachelorette 6/22/2010 12:55PM - in reply to Sweet Charlie
      • Morocco Mole
      • The only thing you can condemn this guy for is agreeing to be on this shithole show to begin with. As for how he comes off? That is almost completely in the hands of the directors and editors. None of us could control what kind of person we appeared to be if we were plopped on the show. You know practically nothing about how someone "really" is by watching a "reality" show. (I'll grant you know something about them by the fact that they PURSUED being on a reality show, though.)
    • sensesfail565
      • RE: former 1500m All-American on The Bachelorette 6/23/2010 1:32AM - in reply to Morocco Mole
      • sensesfail565
      • Im sure Ali doesnt even understand/care what division III or I or II even means so who cares She's hot let the man brag
    • koshkosh
      • RE: former 1500m All-American on The Bachelorette 6/23/2010 11:00PM - in reply to sensesfail565
      • koshkosh
      • I ran cross country and track with this guy in 2001 and 2002 at UW-Oshkosh and he was a cool person, genuinely a nice guy -- I haven't watched the show yet, a friend of mine told me there was this "Kirk" runner from a Wisconsin college that was on the show and we figured out it was him. Best of luck to him, hope he wins, and hope his condition gets better from the mold poisoning -- I'm getting over a lung disease as well, something different than he had...
    • j rudd
      • RE: former 1500m All-American on The Bachelorette 6/25/2010 3:43PM - in reply to Post Blue
      • j rudd
      • Kirk- you got me hooked on the show again! I laughed so hard when you brought out the scrap book because I did that same stuff . My friend (hotter than Ali) said she fell in love with you last week (but she also had a bottle of wine) .. If you didn't win the show you should try to meet her (next fall she's in my wedding in Oshkosh) !
    • uh huh
      • RE: former 1500m All-American on The Bachelorette 7/5/2010 1:45AM - in reply to top 8 in the country?
      • uh huh
      • I ran with Kirk at Oshkosh for many years, how he comes off on the show is an accurate petrayel of how he really is, so the producers aren't making him act a certain way they want him to

        For those saying he's a douche, don't really know why you get that impression
    • northwestrunner425
      • RE: former 1500m All-American on The Bachelorette 7/27/2010 3:34PM - in reply to DocLove
      • northwestrunner425
      • is John C on the show John Cote the Washington state all time hs 800m record holder with a time in the 1:49 range. The guy is 32 and the runenr graduated in 1997 so time frame might be able to match up? anyone know what happened to cote after hs?