Lukas Verzbikas 3:56 DH Mile

lets get perspective wrote:

what are the track prs of the guys that finished around him?

Richard Kandie - runs a lot of road races, sub-15 5Ks, 1:06x half marathon and 2:20x marathons.

Adrian Myers - 3:44/1:47 PRs

Todd Ptacek - is a Notre Dame sophomore, ran the steeplechase and 4x8 at the Big East Champ and has 3:50 1500 PR

Moses Wawera - 3:38/13:57 PR from several years ago, 2:23 Marathon and 1:06 Half recently

Shawn Lucas - 3:53 1500 and 3:31 1000m from his college days

Nelson and Quinn are from the area and have run pretty fast as well. Not today though.

thats not accurate

Archimedes wrote:

barrows wrote:

Looks like the kid may have won $5,350. $350 for 2nd overall, $5,000 for the sub4. Whether it's $350 or including the bonus, his school just received a nice contribution to their scholarship fund.

Too bad he can't accept any of the money if we wants a Div 1 scholarship.

Or if he ever wants to compete in the NCAA at any level in either track or cross country.

TrackCoach wrote:

lets get perspective wrote:

what are the track prs of the guys that finished around him?

Richard Kandie - runs a lot of road races, sub-15 5Ks, 1:06x half marathon and 2:20x marathons.

Adrian Myers - 3:44/1:47 PRs

Todd Ptacek - is a Notre Dame sophomore, ran the steeplechase and 4x8 at the Big East Champ and has 3:50 1500 PR

Moses Wawera - 3:38/13:57 PR from several years ago, 2:23 Marathon and 1:06 Half recently

Shawn Lucas - 3:53 1500 and 3:31 1000m from his college days

Ptacek isn't even on the ND roster...The 8th place guy Currie went to ND and has run 1:48/2:24 though. I don't think Myers has run 3:44/1:47 either...maybe 1:48/3:50?

Why should he compete in the NCAA? He trains and races farily independently and quite professionally. Why wouldn't he just sign with a major shoe companay and take classes along the way? Or, perhaps her could be offered a full ride at Oregon with a nice contract waiting at graduation?

I ran this course today. Got 5:17. It's about 5 to 10 seconds faster than a course that is just flat I'd guess. Lukas was FLYING. I was watching the finish. This was a very fun race and events.

By looking at the compared Track PR's, anywhere from 20 to 40 seconds were shaved off by the downhill. Which means "V" might have ran anywhere from 4:36 to 4:16 given a flat track race. Great time as a 17 yr old Sophomore in H.S.. That said, he still has a ways to go to be considered one of the best high school milers of all time. I am a fan favorite of Jim Ryun, Gerry Lindgren and Pre who all ran under 4:10. Kids all over the country in the past 2 weeks have ran under 4:10 for their respective State Championship meets. Also, does this mean we're going to start putting an astrick* next to a new form of record? All-time high school mile record: Alan Webb 3:53 (*Lukas Verzbikas 3:56 DH).... I can just see it now.

that verbal diarrhea was so bad that you had to post it twice?

I say he could run around 4:05 right now, possibly faster.

This is a very fast high school time but I'd be very surprised if there wasn't a significant amount of time shaved off by the downhill as Kandie just ran a 1:06.x half last Sunday in Fargo. I'd be very surprised if he could come back 1 week after a half on a course of an legitimacy and run 10 sec. slower than his time here. Either way though, Lukas's time was very fast for a high schooler on the roads!

sdfsd wrote:

Archimedes wrote:

Too bad he can't accept any of the money if we wants a Div 1 scholarship.

Or if he ever wants to compete in the NCAA at any level in either track or cross country.

On the front page of the race website it says winnings by high school runners will be distributed to their school's scholarship fund. That's why I wrote that the guy's school will receive a nice contribution to their scholarship fund. Everyone is aware of rules for amateurs and students I was only pointing out that $5K is a pretty good day on the roads. Lighten up fellas.

Dumbasses, we all know how much a downhill adds. Lukas could probably run ~4:06 right now. He's run 8:49 in the 3200

Microdosing EPO. Just keep an open mind.

Actually, Ptacek has run 3:44 for 1500, 4:04 mile and 8:41 steeple. The guy who said 5-10 sec fast is probably right.

Pat Quinn ran 4:10ish and 14:15ish in college. Not too shabby. Recently, he ran 25:00 at the Shamrock Shuffle 8k. Ptacek is a ND graduate who as already mentioned has run low 8:40's in the steeple.

Judging from the DH Mile and Luke V's 6 x 400 in 57's on Flotrack I'd say he is in sub 4:05 shape.

[quote]mister missed her wrote:

Proof is in the pudding. [quote]

I have been letting a lot of stuff slide by in recent years, but this has *got* to stop! The saying is:

"The proof [that is, the *test*] of the pudding is in the eating."

"The proof is in the pudding" is just nonsensical.

Here are a few photos from the race.

Here are a few photos from the race.

It was about 87 degrees at the time of the race. Very humid. Some guys handled the heat better than others. Comparing pr's of the other participants is a very crude proxy. With that being said, I think Lukas has proven that he is in sub 4 minute shape, regardless of the net downhill.