you're right iliketocrytoo but they have also attempted to appeal to the audience by revamping the format of the website, adding features such as the training talk, etc.
They obviously care about improving the page and appealing to an audience so there is nothing wrong with criticism to create a better product.
I don't see any posts about boycotting or anything like that...mainly appeals to improve the sight by not alienating a group of people who frequent the page.
D2 and D3 SUCKS!!! WHO CARESS!!!! D1 Rules!! YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHH
I always wondered if I was the only one who thought the people who run this site are a little drunk on their own bullshit. The coverage is really great, but just about every time I bring up the homepage, I see something that makes me think "Wow, these guys are total assholes."
Of course, it's their site. They're free to put up whatever content they like, refuse to improve their writing, and call out runners and coaches on a regular basis, just as we're free to start going elsewhere for our running coverage.
So love it or leave it? They trumpet the fact that they're the best source for news; honestly, we're limited to them. Therefore, since they've assumed that responsibility, they want that responsibility, they should step it up. If they want to help track as much as they claim to, they should increase their professionalism. I would proofread articles for them for free; it wouldn't be that hard to increase the professionalism of the site.
Who cares? Anyone can access D3 results from just google searching or directathletics.
Even if they put them on the front page, no guarantee that people are gonna look at them.
Don't hold the BroJos responsible just because D1 is such better competition than D2 or D3.
Your post proves that D1 does not guarantee a better education. No one on this thread is questioning the talent and competitive level of D1, we're simply asking the Brojos to refrain from the condescending remarks regarding D2 and D3.
C/M Runner wrote:
riverview wrote:In a sport where everything is measurable why does it matter what division you compete in? Sure in basketball you can be a really good DIII player but you're never going to get the press of a DI player. The competition the DIII player is playing against is allowing him to score 25 a game. In track everyone has a time if a DI guy runs 4:05 and a DIII guy runs 4:05 the DI guy is as good as the DIII guy and vice versa. It's track guys, everyone (DI DII DIII JUCO NAIA) is competing against the clock why is there a need to belittle each other?
I did a quick comparison of the top 20 times listed in the main running events for men between the 3 main divisions (1, 2, 3). The performances, unfortunately, do not include the respective Division National Championships results as Direct Athletics does not have them listed in their best performance listings.
Interesting enough, the only event where there was intermingling of the divisions among the top 20 overall times was in the 5K, where Adams State (D2) had 3 people in the top 20. The other events I checked out (60m, 400m, 800m, and mile), the top performer from D2 would crack at the 20th position, if lucky. No D3 person ever made the top 20. So hypothetically, a D3 person is not fast enough to be warranted a spot as "among the fastest in the nation" so in the Brojos' logic, "why should they follow the slow guys?" I think this is an interesting comparison to make, particularly when the top 800m runner for the USA professionally was not a D1 athlete. Why aren't all of the professional runners who attended a USA university come from a D1 program? It makes me curious as to how someone from a D2 or D3 program can be motivated enough to continue running (and excelling) professionally, given that their collegiate times may not be as competitive as a D1 athlete...
I agree with riverview, except for tactical races, times are times, whether D1 or D2 or D3.
And to C/M Runner's point that few D2 or D3 runners crack the top 20 in D1, so what? How many D1 runners would love to be in the top 40, 50 or 100 D1 times out of thousands of runners? And skimming the top season times for D1 runners doesn't mean that in many D1 meets D2 runner's times would more often place them in the top 20.
Let's face it, I bet many of the posters that continue to dog D2 or D3 are living vicariously and would get smoked in a race with the top D2 or D3 runners. So as many have said, don't say anything instead of continuing to denigrate D2 or D3 runners who work theior arse off to knock a minute or more off their HS 5k time and try and win a D2 conference championship. That fact that you don't care doesn't matter. If you don't carry that lesson into your work place you will never be able to take pride in doing a locally good job even if it isn't recorded in Business Week.