Jordan 4:32.5 spilt and loses!

7655mnjg7 wrote:

You race that tactically stupid and you deserve to lose.

Agreed.

Ya, she makes up 80 meters and gets outkicked by one of the best 800 meter runners in the country. What horrible tactics. I swear you people are blithering idiots.

The name of the TN anchor is Brittany Sheffey (not Price). And she had a 20 meter lead (not 80). Fine race by both she and Hasay (who earlier ran a 4:41 in mile prelims).

yogi wrote:

The name of the TN anchor is Brittany Sheffey (not Price). And she had a 20 meter lead (not 80). Fine race by both she and Hasay (who earlier ran a 4:41 in mile prelims).

It may not have been 80, but it def was 20 either.

81.4 meters.

Hasay is so nice and a good sport. Something most people on here could learn a thing or 2 from...

http://www.flotrack.org/videos/coverage/view_video/236733-2010-ncaa-indoor-track-and-field-championships/317612-jordan-hasay-after-day-1-of-2010-ncaa-indoor-championships

Mrr82 wrote:

yogi wrote:

The name of the TN anchor is Brittany Sheffey (not Price). And she had a 20 meter lead (not 80). Fine race by both she and Hasay (who earlier ran a 4:41 in mile prelims).

It may not have been 80, but it def was 20 either.

I'm going by the 4:32.5 reported here for Hasay and the 4:35.9 reported at T&FN for Sheffey. That works out to exactly 20 meters at 68 400m pace. Might be a little more, probably not much (and I did watch live as well). If you have better info on splits, would be happy to have it.

Kind of hard to tell because the Oregon girl before Jordan was dead and handed her the stick right at the starting zone.

Be Hillarious is LSU beats Tennessee and Oregon in the Team score almost soley off of having 3 girls in the 60 meter dash. Even funnier Villanova could come out of nowhere and score massive points with 4 girls in the 3000.

Is that for 1600m as we don't do these relays over here?

If so that is better than both her mile & 1500m pr's

Kind of hard to tell because the Oregon girl before Jordan was dead and handed her the stick right at the starting zone.[/quote]

Good one mate. The split is taken from when she crosses the start finish line/the start of 1600m, not when she receives the baton. So you do get a fairly accurate split.

I would probably say add 2seconds to get the mile split, for the extra 9m and also rolling in. 4:34/4:35

Interesting question on what she should have done different. At the time I thought she should have gone for it when she caught the leader however she obviously at PR pace. Looking back probably would have sat in for 400m and had a sustained drive, EL G/Bekele style.

Ohya Timing wrote:

Hasay is so nice and a good sport. Something most people on here could learn a thing or 2 from...

She's a class act. I figured Oregon would have a DMR title to their credit, but she said the best they've ever done is 9th. She knew she ran a hard race. I hope it doesn't ruin her for today.

Tennessee girl ran a high 4.35

Yeah, I had Sheffey in around 4:35. Great run by her and Hasay (4:32), as well as Infeld (4:33) and Reid (4:36).

7655mnjg7 wrote:

No, if she had caught TN, sat on her and kicked, that would be been the perfect race. Catching her and swinging right by and trying to immediately gap her was re-freaking-tarded. Welcome to the big leagues kid.

God I hate letsrun sometime.

Speaking of the big leagues...a friend of mine, Miguel Nuci, caught the lead pack at CIM a few years ago with a hard, solo surge between miles 13-20. When he caught the pack, he immediately sat in and ran with them. He ended up cramping and finishing 3rd. After the race, the two guys that beat him (both east Africans) said that they probably would have given up if Miguel had just motored by at mile 20.

Jordan's strength is her strength. I see no problem in the tactic she took of trying to put the race away early. It didn't work. There have been plenty of times when people (running all distances) chose to sit and kick and failed.

If Dave Wottle had run only a fraction slower in the olympics, the only reason people would have to remember him is as the guy who went out idiotically slow and cost himself a gold medal.

damien rex wrote:

Price, the Tennessee girl is in the 800 final. She had an 80 meter lead. Unless Jordan blasted by her; by a lot, she was not going to outkick her.

Even though I agree with what you say about trying to outkick an 800m runner, Sheffey was the anchor, not Price.

And even though Price is their superstar 800m runner, and Sheffey is much less well known, Sheffey is pretty quick and known to race the shorter middle distances as well as the 4x4. Not that I'm an Oregon elite, but I would probably not try to sit and kick a runner with Sheffey's strength in that situation, not if I thought I even had a fraction of a chance at using the strength Hassay has and making her work for it. By taking the lead Hassay could have hoped to take away some of Sheffey's kick...just didn't work out, but it doesn't mean she is stupidly tactical -- both of them were smart.

Well, congrats on having a friend. In the real big leagues, you let the morons and rabbits use all their energy pacing the race. Then you demolish them. Next time maybe Miguel should try hydrating.

Emily Infeld of 3rd place Georgetown was no slouch, running a 4:33 split.

7655mnjg7 wrote:

Well, congrats on having a friend. In the real big leagues, you let the morons and rabbits use all their energy pacing the race. Then you demolish them. Next time maybe Miguel should try hydrating.

Is this big league enough for you?

Maybe you should try not being a jackass.