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Yes others have said that. They were wrong too.
There is nothing "classy" about it. SHE is the first person who should know. THAT is what shows respect. To her.
Her parents have zero say in the matter. Asking them first or even informing them first says that you care about what they think over what she thinks. It also smacks of antiquated ideas about daughters as "property".
Want to be classy? Ask her. If she says yes, you can both tell her parents together. Maybe they will accept you. Maybe they won't. In the very least they should respect that you put HER answer above theirs.
You are assuming the couple had not talked about marriage. Truthfully, the proposal itself is just an antiquated custom. The whole thing is a play of tradition.
It is a nice thing to do.
If you want to buck tradition, it is fine to not follow the custom, but be aware that other people like customs. Customs are what keep us from acting like savages. I am not saying that if we stop asking for permission, we become savages, but simply ruling it an antiquated custom is meaningless.
Obviously the proposal should come after a long discussion about marriage. Again, it is just a silly tradition to get the ball rolling. Anyone who proposes to a girl without knowing the answeris a moron.