fartons wrote:
Tadesse was a cyclist before start training, hope this will help.
By the way, we Spaniards have two surnames.
Jerónimo Bravo Sicilia, Ph. D., currently full-time researcher at CSIC, Valencia (Spain). He has being doing research work in Oxford (England), Madrid in Valencia (Spain).
with
Jerónimo Bravo Rodríguez, trainer, Born in Cáceres, currently living in Madrid (Spain)
You can easily track their curricula on the net.
So where the hell is 'Available in HD' now? Did this answer your question? If so, I would expect you to man up and apologize for the accusations.
I'm not sure why I would expect this from someone on LR.
gfsdgsdf wrote:
6x1200 @2:57 is only ~1 secs per lap faster than 5k pace for Bekele (For ZT is is more like 3k pace ) which sounds like a hard workout but not insane. I am slightly more impressed by the 500ms (that is a lot of running ~ @mile pace)
I am more impressed at the 500 workout as well. Based on that he could easily go under 3:50 for the mile, maybe under 3:30 for 1500.
But the 1200s in 2:57 are even faster then 3k pace for ZT...unless you think he is capable of 7:23ish.
So 2 different sessions where he does:
~11000m @ under 3000m race pace
~7500m @ under 1500m race pace
I guess his endurance is so good 2+ minutes recovery is almost as good as full recovery, but still, that is very impressive.
He does however work with dirty team Banesto research scientist. No apologies needed.
Haji wrote:
fartons wrote:Tadesse was a cyclist before start training, hope this will help.
By the way, we Spaniards have two surnames.
Jerónimo Bravo Sicilia, Ph. D., currently full-time researcher at CSIC, Valencia (Spain). He has being doing research work in Oxford (England), Madrid in Valencia (Spain).
with
Jerónimo Bravo Rodríguez, trainer, Born in Cáceres, currently living in Madrid (Spain)
You can easily track their curricula on the net.
So where the hell is 'Available in HD' now? Did this answer your question? If so, I would expect you to man up and apologize for the accusations.
I'm not sure why I would expect this from someone on LR.
ghost wrote:
I assume he trains twice a day on most days, but he does not count the 'jogging session' or easy runs, which are still done at around 3.15 per km.
Ghost in Saudi,
http://www.kfupm.edu.sa, apply today
Ghost
In few cases the schedule reports the PM easy run.Egg PM_30m easy
Why do you assume that when the schedule just report 1h15m he runs twice ? My doubt. I think that when Tadesse runs something as 1h00m or 1h15m run so fast that can be sub 3:00 he may run once in most of this days.
I hope that Marco will let us know.
If it were a Spanish athlete who was successful, and was coached by this character, how many of you fanboys would be quite so interested?
You'd be up in arms about the cheating Euro guy.
This guy is obviously dodgy as hell.
I figure he is at least ~7:30 or so, ~1second faster per lap. It is definitely more doable for that for some one like Bekele(just over 60 a lap for 5k).
the verdict wrote:
gfsdgsdf wrote:6x1200 @2:57 is only ~1 secs per lap faster than 5k pace for Bekele (For ZT is is more like 3k pace ) which sounds like a hard workout but not insane. I am slightly more impressed by the 500ms (that is a lot of running ~ @mile pace)
I am more impressed at the 500 workout as well. Based on that he could easily go under 3:50 for the mile, maybe under 3:30 for 1500.
But the 1200s in 2:57 are even faster then 3k pace for ZT...unless you think he is capable of 7:23ish.
So 2 different sessions where he does:
~11000m @ under 3000m race pace
~7500m @ under 1500m race pace
I guess his endurance is so good 2+ minutes recovery is almost as good as full recovery, but still, that is very impressive.
available in HD wrote:
Is coach Jerónimo Bravo the same Jerónimo Bravo who specializes in experimental molecular biology?
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Is Dathan Ritzenheim's coach the same guy who was affiliated with the notorious Athletics West and a client of Victor Conte?
Thanksyou wrote:
Is Dathan Ritzenheim's coach the same guy who was affiliated with the notorious Athletics West and a client of Victor Conte?
Yes, I believe his name is Alberto Salazar or something?
trollism wrote:
If it were a Spanish athlete who was successful, and was coached by this character, how many of you fanboys would be quite so interested?
You'd be up in arms about the cheating Euro guy.
And if said athlete was from New Zealand or Australia you'd be vouching for his "clean-ness." So what is your point?
Link to the paper?
available in HD wrote:
The co-author of "The key to top-level endurance running performance" Dr. Alejandro Lucia was a former research scientist for pro cycling's "Team Banesto".
Cheers suckers!
available in HD wrote:
Obviously Jerónimo Bravo is the co-author of an article in the British Journal of Sports Medicine on "The key to top-level endurance running performance" ...
Off the Grid wrote:
Marco Veledíaz wrote:
Bronce medal 10000 m Athens 2004,
Zersenay started to RUN at age 20 in January 2002 and to TRAIN shortly after
2.5yrs after he started running, he won an Olympic medal....after living at sea level all his life.
Hopefully, you've figured out over the last decade that Adi Bana is not at sea level.
These are obviously not real. Not Possible with his race results. Not really possible for anyone
LIES wrote:
These are obviously not real. Not Possible with his race results. Not really possible for anyone
WTF man is it really necessary to be negative.
He had the half marathon world record ffs.
I miss the old days of letsrun when there could be a legit discussion like the one above for multiple pages and something could actually be LEARNED. Now, as symbolized with your dumb post is what letsrun is. A place for people to degrade anything of value by being negative. I would call it skeptical but it isn't even that people like you among hundreds of others on letsrun just have this underlying motivation to be negative. Not be skeptical, not search for truth, not even try to learn a damn thing to make their running better(an ulterior motive that makes sense to selfish people like you), just to be negative for it's own sake.
Look at letsrun archives anytime before 2010 and you'll see many of the brightest minds discussing topics, and what I assume are people trying to learn without much knowledge asking the right questions. That doesn't happen today without the discussion degrading extremely quick. Tinman, who is gaining a high reputation as being one of the best coaches in the world with his results and understanding of scientific knowledge used to post on her religiously. For a community to make someone like that avoid it, is just plain sad.
WTFFFF wrote:
LIES wrote:
These are obviously not real. Not Possible with his race results. Not really possible for anyone
WTF man is it really necessary to be negative.
He had the half marathon world record ffs.
I miss the old days of letsrun when there could be a legit discussion like the one above for multiple pages and something could actually be LEARNED. Now, as symbolized with your dumb post is what letsrun is. A place for people to degrade anything of value by being negative. I would call it skeptical but it isn't even that people like you among hundreds of others on letsrun just have this underlying motivation to be negative. Not be skeptical, not search for truth, not even try to learn a damn thing to make their running better(an ulterior motive that makes sense to selfish people like you), just to be negative for it's own sake.
Look at letsrun archives anytime before 2010 and you'll see many of the brightest minds discussing topics, and what I assume are people trying to learn without much knowledge asking the right questions. That doesn't happen today without the discussion degrading extremely quick. Tinman, who is gaining a high reputation as being one of the best coaches in the world with his results and understanding of scientific knowledge used to post on her religiously. For a community to make someone like that avoid it, is just plain sad.
Tinman is doing some great stuff with his group right now, but to call him one of the best coaches in the world is plain silly.
well,, wrote:
Tinman is doing some great stuff with his group right now, but to call him one of the best coaches in the world is plain silly.
Far from that.
Indeed. wrote:
well,, wrote:
Tinman is doing some great stuff with his group right now, but to call him one of the best coaches in the world is plain silly.
Far from that.
Extremely silly and you know it, Tinman.
WTFFFF wrote:
LIES wrote:
These are obviously not real. Not Possible with his race results. Not really possible for anyone
WTF man is it really necessary to be negative.
He had the half marathon world record ffs.
I miss the old days of letsrun when there could be a legit discussion like the one above for multiple pages and something could actually be LEARNED. Now, as symbolized with your dumb post is what letsrun is. A place for people to degrade anything of value by being negative. I would call it skeptical but it isn't even that people like you among hundreds of others on letsrun just have this underlying motivation to be negative. Not be skeptical, not search for truth, not even try to learn a damn thing to make their running better(an ulterior motive that makes sense to selfish people like you), just to be negative for it's own sake.
Look at letsrun archives anytime before 2010 and you'll see many of the brightest minds discussing topics, and what I assume are people trying to learn without much knowledge asking the right questions. That doesn't happen today without the discussion degrading extremely quick. Tinman, who is gaining a high reputation as being one of the best coaches in the world with his results and understanding of scientific knowledge used to post on her religiously. For a community to make someone like that avoid it, is just plain sad.
Best post on this issue I've seen on here in a long time. Should be QotD.
There's no way Tadese only started running with 20 years of age, and in the same year he was running 63 at the World Half and 28:47 at the African Champs.
That's would be a completely absurd combination of talent and training.
He may say that, but he surely news running a lot since much younger
One cannot run such times off of no consistent training for a large amount of time.
The username is from another thread, it has nothing to do it the matter.