Why is Marc Bloom/The Harrier ranking The Woodlands ahead of Mt. View? Mt. View beat The Woodlands by 28 pts. at Great American. I know it was less than ideal conditions, but it's xc. Could of, would of, should of, but they didn't. Mt. View is #1.
Is Marc Bloom in bed with The Woodlands? What's the story?
This sounds like a thread for...Dyestat!
I know, but looking at the homepage today about the Utah state meet made me wonder...Even wejo or rojo thinks they are #1.
Portland Runner wrote:
This sounds like a thread for...Dyestat!
Two runners from the Woodlands made a wrong turn at Great American, thereafter bgetting DQ'd, causing Mt. View to win. If the two Woodlands runners had not made a wrong turn Woodlands would have dominated the meet since both of the DQ'd runners were in the top five. Thats why Bloom still has Woodlands at #1.
SJM wrote:
Why is Marc Bloom/The Harrier ranking The Woodlands ahead of Mt. View? Mt. View beat The Woodlands by 28 pts. at Great American. I know it was less than ideal conditions, but it's xc. Could of, would of, should of, but they didn't. Mt. View is #1.
Is Marc Bloom in bed with The Woodlands? What's the story?
Probably because even though the Woodlands lost their top 2 guys' scores, Mt. View could only beat them by 28.
This isn't neccessarily a "coulda shoulda woulda" kind of deal, because the facts are in front of us, Woodlands demolished Mt. View, but then later was called on a technicality(yeah i know it wasn't a tiny one, but i don't think it would have made much of a difference in scoring).
Ok, that makes sense, I forgot how some of the top guys at GA got DQed.
The Woodlands beat absolutely dominated the field at Great American. What other team in the country could have lost their top 2 runners and still finished 3rd in that stacked race. The Woodlands has soundly defeated Kingwood both times they have raced and Kingwood "beat" them by a few points at Great American. Mt. View is a great team but Mr. Bloom was right on by actually taking into account the situation and not just looking at the scores.
What is the Woodlands training philosphy? Theyhave been dominant for YEARS! I guess I could ask the same question of Jesuit, and then most of us know about York...
They used to be known as Conroe McCullough. I'm not sure if Danny Green is still the coach, but he had the boys running a lot of miles. Eric Henry, Danny Green (coach's son), Sutter(?), and others put in a ton of miles. Nothing wrong with that although not many of them performed really well in college.
The other thing that they had/have in their favor is support. You go to a meet where they are participating, and their fans are all over the course with banners, etc. cheering on their runners. For most XC programs, they're lucky if their parents show up to watch. Once you get a top program, it can be realitvely easy to keep since everyone wants to be assoicated with a winner.
i live in the woodlands area, and The Woodlands is a VERY rich school. They are good at almost every sport (football, baseball, swimming, lacrosse, gymnastics, you name it, they probably have it). Their are over 4000 kids in the school and with that many kids, it is not too hard to find 7-10 talented individuals. Coach Green (who is still the coach) is a great coach. The kids there work very hard and are extremely didicated. The Woodlands are a high mileage program (they break 100 mpw a few times during the year). Some of ya'll might think that is only average, but for a TEAM to break 100 is amazing. The Woodlands area is ideal for running. Nice trails, quiet area, lots of running space.
The woodlands just dominated their district meet, which is possibly the hardest district in the nation. They placed all 7 of there varsity runners in the top 10 with only Magness from Klien Oak in 2nd, and Stanley from Klien in 3rd breaking up a 1-7 sweep.
I think running over 100 mile weeks in highschool for a 3 mile race is a little drastic.
Because Jodie Hughes went there and she's hot.
Hey SJM, congrats on the 2nd place. That is really impressive...was Sullivan 1st?
The Woodlands runs against the best in Texas and when they do manage to venture off they still dominate(great american). I vote for an end of year team footlocker style race. thatll settle something like this. ANY EX WOODLANDS RUNNERS ON T HE BOARD?
gottapanda- the sjm who started the thread isn't me, but thanks anyways. Sullivan was first in 16:18, I was 2nd in 16:22, with Stanley in 3rd in about 16:30 and Norris in 4th in about 16:40. The course was incredibly slow b/c the whole course was mud, not a dry spot on the course, and it was raining while we raised.
but anyways, the woodlands dominated probably the toughest district in the nation. I don't think there is a doubt that they r #1 in the nation.
found results in case anyones interested:
Boys (5000m)
Teams: 1, Woodlands, 23; 2, Klein, 56; 3, Klein Oak, 80; 4, Westfield, 122; 5, Conroe, 122; 6, Spring, 175; 7, Klein Collins, 180
Individuals:
1. Brian Sullivan, Woodlands, 16:18
2. Steve Magness, Klein Oak, 16:22
3. Eric Stanley, Klein, 16:34
4. Jonathon Norris, Woodlands, 16:44
5. Daniel Zainfeld, Woodlands, 16:57
6. Dane Hurtubise, Woodlands, 16:57
7. Daniel Lanzillotti, Woodlands, 16:59
8. Ben Schulz, Woodlands, 17:18
9. Javier Misiego, Klein, 17:28
10. Pete Dorsey, Woodlands, 17:29
It was Stacy Sutter. he went on to run at Northeast Louisiana University (now university of louisiana at monroe) in the mid 80's.
Was a solid mid-major college runner. Eric Henry of course went on to a successful career, especially college.
Danny Green Jr. is now coaching at Arkansas as an assistant.
I could not even get out of my region (top 2 advance)in High School with a 9:23 3200m because Eric was running 8:52 and Danny somewhere around 9:00 or so. They were tough as well as humble competitors.
Go Woodlands! (and sjm1368, of course).
I ran for the woodlands but on their girls team.
I trained with coach green's wife sometime. I can say this, he runs his guys hard and doesn't take much crap from them. He expects a lot and they definately do not put him down. I've seen him chew them out a lot though, after meets.
With the exception of Chris Emme, none have done too well after HS. Maybe they got tired of all the hard work...