more fuel for the debate. Comparison of finishes from last year to this year.
Here is an analysis of the change of place between the oregon and stanford runners from last year PAC 10 meet to this year's meet. ( if they didn't compete in 2008, I went back to 2007, if they hadn't competed before I left it blank )
Oregon, 2008 place, 2009, difference
Puskedra 2nd, 4th, +2
Centrowitz 11th, 5th, -6
McNamara --, 8th, --
Danny M 17th, 13th, -4
A.J Acosta 12th (2007), 15th, +3
Diego M 38 (2007), 32, -6
Fleet -- , 33, --
Buges -- , 34, --
Klotz 23, 37, +14
Top 5 improvement: -5 places with one ( senior transfer Mcnamara ) having not run before.
Total team: +3 ( with three new comers, two freshman and transfer mcnamara not counting)
Stanford, 2008 place, 2009, difference
Derrick 3rd, 1st, -2
Heath 20th, 3rd, -17
Riley 7th, 6th, -1
Marpole Bird 73rd, 7th, -66
Untrennier -- , 11th , --
Gregg 24th, 12th, -12
Johnson -- , 19th, --
Sullivan 48th, 21st, -27
Apel -- , 46th, --
Stanford Improvement: -98
Total Team: - 137
Analysis; With Salazar coached Rupp gone, everybody moves up a spot. Stanford has all six of their runners improve, and some huge. Heath, Sullivan, Gregg and especially Marpole Bird improved huge from last year. Marople Bird did run terrible last year ( he was also 43 in 2007), but even removing him from their top 5, and subbing in Gregg, you still get a negative 44 improvement for their 'top 5'.
Great job by the team and Coach Dunn.
Oregon had Centro improve huge ( the points get harder to get when you place higher ) so his -6 was a big jump. Diego moving up 6 is not that big a deal as he was back in the 30's both times. Danny M. was better moving up 4 in the teens.
Both team had one high scorer not having a previous result.
In summary it looks like Stanford is just improving more than Oregon from last year(s).