3 runners die at Detroit Marathon

Since we are on page two, I thought it might be a good time to offer condolences to the families of the deceased.

Yeah, you're right.

First things first wrote:

Since we are on page two, I thought it might be a good time to offer condolences to the families of the deceased.

I disagree 100%. It is a race the first thing to report is the winner.

Nick Stanko and Chad Johnson ran together for over 23 miles before Nick pulled away.

Sarah Plaxton was down by 4 minutes at the 23 mile mark and came back to win by 7 seconds in a great womens race.

A spectator in Philly died today at the Raiders vs. Eagles football game. Tha outcome of the game was reported first. Not one of these deaths were a factor in the outcome of the winners.

wrong to the umpteenth degree wrote:

A spectator in Philly died today at the Raiders vs. Eagles football game.

Considering Oakland won, there was probably more than one.

Excellent recap!!!!!! Yes, the result of a non major marathon is more important than the lives of three fellow human beings. A LOT of people who feel the same way as you would have thought to mention the winner's time since it was so important.

Did they mention the SCORE of the Eagles game?

I happen to agree that the deaths are far less interesting than the results. I heard NO RESULTS on CNN.

Have you ever watched the 5 hour plus marathoners? I am amazed that there are not more deaths. Some of these people are not fit enough to walk to the mailbox.

Simple solution is to shut the courses down at 4 hours.

The better comparsion would be if one of the Raiders or Eagles died on the field - that would certainly have been reported prior to the score. The public is generally not that interested in the results of a marathon like Detroit.

wrong to the umpteenth degree wrote:

I disagree 100%. It is a race the first thing to report is the winner.

Nick Stanko and Chad Johnson ran together for over 23 miles before Nick pulled away.

Sarah Plaxton was down by 4 minutes at the 23 mile mark and came back to win by 7 seconds in a great womens race.

Coming out of the tunnel Nick was 7 seconds ahead of Chad.

At approx. 24.4 miles Nick was 9 seconds ahead.

At approx 24.4 miles Sarah was back about 2:55 min.

Wrong, the runners who died were neither elite and were in fact far from it. They would be more like some tailgater throwing the ball around in the stadium parking lot before the game keeling over after choking on a kielbasa. Is the general public really that interested in some fatso keeling over while doing something he shouldn't be doing?

No, we actually need to let running serve yet another useful purpose to society: let the self-selecting self-euthanizers weed themselves out of the gene pool. Our species needs more of this, not less. Go oinkers, go!

weirdo is me wrote:

I happen to agree that the deaths are far less interesting than the results. I heard NO RESULTS on CNN.

Have you ever watched the 5 hour plus marathoners? I am amazed that there are not more deaths. Some of these people are not fit enough to walk to the mailbox.

Simple solution is to shut the courses down at 4 hours.

I did look at the corpse map and I could'nt see any of them!

KnowItAll wrote:

Wrong, the runners who died were neither elite and were in fact far from it.

Please revise this sentence and resubmit it.

KnowItAll wrote:

Wrong, the runners who died were neither elite and were in fact far from it. They would be more like some tailgater throwing the ball around in the stadium parking lot before the game keeling over after choking on a kielbasa. Is the general public really that interested in some fatso keeling over while doing something he shouldn't be doing?

Elite is a relative term here. Elite for thiks race, sure. Not sure I would call a 2:20 elite. And that is why the other stories are bigger stories. There are very few people who really are interested in a 2:20 marathoner - there are quite a few interested in the other story.

If we assume a life expectancy of 72, then the average person dies after living 26,280 days.

So, if we randomly selected 26,280 people, we'd expect on average, one of them to die today.

So ... why is everyone surprised when someone dies in a marathon? It seems that you'd expect the big ones to have one person die on average every year.

That doesn't happen(because runners are healthier on average than the population) - but it shouldn't be as big a shock as it is when it does.

To people who are worried about dying in a marathon, there's a study out there that analyses the preparation of runners compared to incidents like this, and it found you were hugely more likely to run into significant medical problems if you ran under 35 mpw, i.e. hadn't prepared thoroughly. Sorry, I don't have the reference to hand.

[quote]Slowpokeman wrote:

If we assume a life expectancy of 72, then the average person dies after living 26,280 days.

So, if we randomly selected 26,280 people, we'd expect on average, one of them to die today.

/quote]

I'm not a statistics guy, but I did struggle through a class of it in engineering school. I think this is incorrect. Can a stat expert please step in here.

wrong to the umpteenth degree wrote:

Sarah Plaxton was down by 4 minutes at the 23 mile mark and came back to win by 7 seconds in a great womens race.

Kevin52 wrote:

At approx 24.4 miles Sarah was back about 2:55 min.

Sarah caught and passed the women's leader in the last 100 yards of the race. There was nothing she could do. You had to feel bad for her but pretty happy for the winner...

weirdo is me wrote:

I happen to agree that the deaths are far less interesting than the results. I heard NO RESULTS on CNN.

Have you ever watched the 5 hour plus marathoners? I am amazed that there are not more deaths. Some of these people are not fit enough to walk to the mailbox.

Simple solution is to shut the courses down at 4 hours.

Yea because only 4+ hour marathoners can die from a heart precondition!!

Discussion Starter wrote:

Can't wait till the anti-runners get a hold of this.

This thread really started off on the wrong foot.

No sympathy for the situation.

And I didn't know there was a prevalent anti-running group that was trying to spread their message.