Nice Hudson interview about Ritz and American distance

I love it I post about how Alan Webb would do better at higher distances and my thread gets deleted. Im glad a well respected coach agrees with me. GOLD IN THE 5000M

DDT wrote:

Im glad a well respected coach agrees with me.

Where did you see that? Because it wasn't anywhere in the interview in question.

addition by subtraction wrote:

DDT wrote:

Im glad a well respected coach agrees with me.

Where did you see that? Because it wasn't anywhere in the interview in question.

Brad Hudson is an extremely well-respected coach. There might be 3-4 of you consistent nabobs of negativity who have a personal grudge against him but he gets props from the best runners in the world all the time in the media and on facebook. His facebook page is proof positive of his popularity and legitimacy. It's loaded with superstars, and it's amazing how many high level friends he has.

Capriotti felt threatened by Rowe, pure and simple. Cap enjoys the glamour of his job and hopes to keep it for a while, despite not being very good at it. Can't have some young hungry fast-tracker knock you from the throne.

So, under the pretense of 'cost-cutting moves due to these difficult economic conditions' Rowe was f***ed in the ass while they somehow manage to find the money to keep on superstars like Llewellyn Starks (of Brawl on the Mall: Indy 2006 fame).

I really appreciate and respect what Brad Hudson did both as an athlete and as a coach. I have read his book and I enjoyed it.

However, at the end of Hudson's comments, he said that before his last marathon, Ritz could not do any serious speedwork for 18 months because of calf problems. He could only do strides and some drills. Yet Hudson mentions that Ritz's training was "100% correct."

Calf problems should not be an issue if the training is "100 correct," right?

Am I misinterpreting Hudson's comments?

Yes, but Webb have 47 second 400 leg speed. Miles/speed/GolDDDDD.

It's time for the K-Man to weigh in:

1. Salazar could not claim credit for Ritz's success and didn't.

2. The quality philosophy of the 90's was and remains utter crap. Those were the Dark Ages for American distance running. Anyone who thinks there was value in that era is a damn fool.

3. Brad Hudson along with Mark Wetmore are the modern disciples and champions of Lydiard style training. The key is to build up the aerobic base through high mileage. Marathon training benefits distance runners at all distances. The accumulation of miles over years of dedicated training yields the sort of breakthroughs Ritz had.

4. Critics of so-called "junk" mileage are idiots. They always point to an injury and go "Aha!" Yet, their minimalist approach to mileage gave us what? The Dark Ages of the 1990s. The successes of white runners doing mileage attest to the value of the philosophy of the Renaissance Runners. American running is respectable again, and it was done through putting in the miles. This is the "secret" of the East Africans. But it really is no secret.

You Dark Agers need to go back to your "science" and your goat piss quackery that you call "training." The Renaissance has arrived. Long live the Renaissance!

Out.

dude, seriously...jump on the 'what experts started saying works this week' bandwagon a little more there buddy. it's all about the athlete. the secret is there is no secret. you can't just take other people's conclusions and represent them with lame metaphors about the dark ages and the renaissance. your very lameness makes me question anything you have said, even the good stuff.

please get a life

eheh

How many white boys doing junk miles, are in the top 20 round the world, ass hole. Take you slow ASS and do some speed work. Keep running a 1000 slow miles a week!!!

Right, and Tila Tequila is an extremely well-respected, um, whatever she is.

Jarmila K. wrote:

addition by subtraction wrote:

Where did you see that? Because it wasn't anywhere in the interview in question.

Brad Hudson is an extremely well-respected coach. There might be 3-4 of you consistent nabobs of negativity who have a personal grudge against him but he gets props from the best runners in the world all the time in the media and on facebook. His facebook page is proof positive of his popularity and legitimacy. It's loaded with superstars, and it's amazing how many high level friends he has.

Yeah, that was really trite and half-assed for kilgore. Nobody forgot how to train in the '90s. What happened in the '90s is a result of the shoe companies blowing apart local clubs and training groups as much as anything else. For all of USATF's shortcomings with respect to distance running, at the turn of the century they came out with the Team USA concept that dedicated individuals got in on and fostered in the right direction which has given us Hansons, Team USA MN, Mammoth TC (nee Team USA California). Group training. Other groups (ZAP, Oregon TC Elite) have also thrived in recent years. Ritz didn't really get into his groove until he switched to Salazar and suddenly had a good, consistent group to train with for the first time since leaving CU.

eheh wrote:

dude, seriously...jump on the 'what experts started saying works this week' bandwagon a little more there buddy. it's all about the athlete. the secret is there is no secret. you can't just take other people's conclusions and represent them with lame metaphors about the dark ages and the renaissance. your very lameness makes me question anything you have said, even the good stuff.

please get a life

eheh

Greg Hill wrote:

Calf problems should not be an issue if the training is "100 correct," right?

Right.

What do you feel might be a cause of calf problems, and what would you suggest to get rid of them?

Speed + miles = sub a 13 5k, not a nother slow as white runner in the USA bloging.

How fast can Huson run the 100 meters? Maybe 12.5 hand time, that sh**t can't win in big meets.

wellnow wrote:

infamous wrote:

So wellnow. What was his last 100m at the world athletics final? It couldn't have been slower than 12 flat

Don't be ridiculous he can't even run that fast. When he says he has run 11 whatever he is lying to intimidate the opposition. If Hudson is stupid enough to believe it, and a lot of letsrunners too, then a few of his rivals will believe it also.

How fast can lagat run his 100m in?

This came from another thread, but is right on.

He was trained poorly for the marathon. Way too much fast stuff. However, way too much long stuff to run a quality 10k. IN APRIL HE WAS TRAINED TO RACE POORLY AT EVERY DISTANCE. However, his distance gave him great strength for his track season. His speed gave him a head start for his track season. Now everyone is trying to give Hudson credit for the AR 5k. It is true that, because Brad trained him poorly for the London Marathon, Ritz had all of the basics in place for a good track season.

Workout # 2 Marathon specific Test measured long mile 1-2 sec.rane Highway

20mile progression 2 beats below Aerobic Threshold

1. 5:07

2. 5:09

3. 5:07

4. 5:02

5. 5:07

6. 4:53

7. 4:54

8. 4:49

9. 4:58

10. 4:48

11. 4:45

12. 4:45

13. 4:49

14. 4:49

15. 4:52

16. 4:47

17. 4:55

18. 4:40

19. 4:43

20. 4:42 *** last few miles run faster to sewhat is in the tank 4:53 avg. Heart-rate 173 Aerobic threshold

you sure.

Yes. The way that we decide how well some one is trained for an event is......RESULTS. The greatest thing about our sport is that there is a JUDGEMENT DAY.

What causes calf problems? Or more specifically, what caused Dathan's calf problems?

I don't know to either question. My guess is overuse via too much speed work, as Brad commented that because of the problems, Dathan had to stay duck the speedwork.

The perhaps more intriguing issue is how Dathan could run really good volume, which had to make his calves pretty tough, but stayed away from the speed. Is there something so different about speedwork from distance work that "absolutely no" speedwork is the only option?

Perhaps someone on this board can answer this.

(I jumped on Hudson's comments because I have been battling calf problems myself now for months. The darn muscle just takes forever to heal. It is an exercise in patience. I'd sure like to be rewarded with a mid-27 10K or a 12:56 5K, especially since my PR's are in another universe from those.)