Nice Hudson interview about Ritz and American distance

Riff wrote:

what other marathoners has salazar couched?

casting couch?

Ritz was slow to pay? What about the $$ from the NYRR? Supposed to be $60k per year.

Rob Lotwis from George Mason?

Dr. Pepper wrote:

Rob Lotwis from George Mason?

I don't know what rock he crawled out from under but if it's the same guy who was a Nike rep in Atlanta and somehow stumbled into the Running Sports Marketing job that Josh Rowe was cornholed out of, yes.

Makes sense I suppose, Capriotti wants a dense, underqualified but loyal hatchet man who is nearly as ugly as Phalen, might as well keep it old-school with one of Johnny Crook's boys from GMU.

i agree with the emphasis on marathon training, but did hudson really have plans to ever run ritz in a solid 5k to utilize that strength work???

So wellnow. What was his last 100m at the world athletics final? It couldn't have been slower than 12 flat

Milton Friedman wrote:

He crossed the 100m to go line in 7:52.2. He finished in 8:03.8, which would be 11.6 for the last 100m.

There is no "100m to go line." You don't know what you are talking about.

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Terrance Mahon

Terrence Mahon had sweet f***all to do with what Meb and Deena did in Athens.

xxxx wrote:

Is anyone else doubting the 140 number for Teg, and the 150 for Bekele? I have never heard that high of mileage for either of them.

It sounds like he´s doing what Lydiard used to do: exaggerating to make a point. Lydiard sometimes said that Peter Snell ran 200 mpw during base phase, while Snell himself has said that he rarely even did 100 mpw.

I can't believe anyone on here wouldn't call Hall and Goucher international successes in the marathon. Seriously, how stupid are you? Hall has run 2:06 and come in top 3 at a major international marathon, as has Kara.

Both have been competitive in the latter stages of stacked fields.

A marathon is INCREDIBLY difficult to break into the top 3. If you're one of the top 20 marathoners in the world, I would say that is a massive international success.

Let me ask those who don't think that Goucher and Hall are internationally successful a question. If you were an All American in college in cross... let's say maybe even top 20, you wouldn't say you were a successful D1 athlete? I challenge anyone who would not say that.

I would argue that anyone who even made it to the Big Dance could argue they were a successful D1 athlete, and possibly even those who are top 20 or 25 in their region.

Now you're telling me Hall and Goucher, who are routinely top 10 in the WORLD in any marathon they're in, are not world class?

Come on.

It's simple, you're myopic. That's what I expect from America, so it's no surprise.

First of all you have no clue what he was paid. Secondly why is Brad working fitting shoes in Eugene Running Company if he is so well paid? Brad is a talented coach who is underpaid for the efforts he puts out. Hopefully he can get some more grants (NYRRC) and other help can come his way so he can spend 100% of his time coaching. The future of post collegiate distance running in the U.S. depends on great coaches like Brad being viable financially.

No, you're a loser for thinking top 10 in the world is some massive failure and a sign of not being internationally successful.

Well, with such an eloquent and compelling argument, how could I possibly disagree? Shithead.

The point is that neither of these guys, despite many, many attempts and despite putting on the airs of knowing how to create world-beaters, has guided more than one or two runners to do really well in the marathon. Ritz may be most talented runner Hudson ever had, but Hudson has worked with more than a few runners with plenty of talent. Salazar's NOP just hasn't produced to the level that he claimed it would and he has also had many talented runners to work with.

Teg runs badger miles and the majority of their miles are sub 6. I believe that he has run 140.

well, I do agree that Hudson is probably not a very good coach who likes to talk.

I also agree that with the exception of Kara, AlSal has not coached a good marthoner (can't remember if Browne ran his 2:12 under Alberto or nor).

Having said that, my point stands that Kara and Hall are world class. I was not arguing that Hudson and AlSal are solid marathon coaches (though AlSal seems to have a handle on training for the 5k and 10k)...

ok, so once in the last x decades, one male and one female marathoner got a medal at the olympics, but other than that, there has been no other major successes for American marathoning as far as medals and world championships are concerned. my point is it will be much harder to catch up with the east africans at marathoning as opposed to the shorter distances because of the gap in aerobic base and threshold. and meb could be grouped into the east african group anyway, because the point is they're basically born into a culture of better aerobic fitness.

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irun wrote:

no one in america has been able to coach anyone to international success in the marathon in a sub-2:08 wr world.

Terrance Mahon

Rodger's was a top 5000m/10000m runner in the US but of course Shorter was faster. Rodgers ran as fast in the 1976 trials 10000 as Ritz ran 30 or so years later -- about 28 flat, so I'll go out on a limb and guess he could go closer to 1330 for 5000m at his best. And technically, Shorter was the top US marathoner in the 70's.

bark wrote:

In case some of you are doubting Bekele's 100m speed, he says himself that his personal best is 11.0 seconds. If the world record holder doesnt know his own ablities, then who does? What reason do you have to doubt him?

Have a link to the interview?