Jacoby Ellsbury ran cross country in high school. If I remember right, his best time was in the Mid 18s for the 5k.
Jacoby Ellsbury ran cross country in high school. If I remember right, his best time was in the Mid 18s for the 5k.
It's threads like this that prove just how retarded runners are. The arrogance to think some of the best athletes in the world can't run a freakin' 18 min 5k. Good grief. I know, it's hard to believe that anyone would choose to make millions playing baseball when they could tear up the AG awards at their local road race circuit, but there is life outside of running.
what browski said!!!
Heck, most third phase recruits at the Marine Corps Recruiting Depots can run 18 minute 3 milers.
Babe Ruth and legendary broadcaster Harry Carry
grif wrote:
Hey Obvious Man,
So how many of the sprinters in your conference turned into professional athletes? I know that these guys are sprinters, and that there are fast twitch and slow twitch muscles. Perhaps you were unaware that a lot of spinters who don't ever become professional athletes can run an 18 minute 5k-take a look at the results of the local races next time you are online. These guys have access to trainers, physical therapists and nutritionalists on a daily basis. A helluva lot of spinters in high school and college have turned into 30-35 year old 5k, 10k and marathoners and a lot of former sprintes have become master runners breaking 18 minutes in a 5k. Um...ever heard of any other conferences than your own by the way?
Sadly, none of the athletes in my conference turned into professional athletes. But if they had, I would bet those guys would be the SLOWEST at 5k.
This is basic physiology. You can't hit tons of home runs and tear up the base paths unless you're highly fast twitch. If you're highly fast twitch, you ain't running a fast 5k. Look at the decathlon. Those are your baseball players. Fast, strong, freaks of fast twitch athleticism who struggle to break 5:00 for the 1500.
I'm sure there are some guys in MLB can run 18 minutes for 5k, but my guess is it's not the speed demons. Baseball is a skill sport after all, so it's possible that a natural middle distance runner was blessed with good enough hand eye coordination to hit .300. Or maybe there is a pitcher out there who can do it (as far as I know, pitching is not a "muscular" activity where extra brawn leads to mph on the fastball).
As for your claim about former professional athletes running local 5k's, I have to confess I've never seen one in the results. Could you link to an example?
grif wrote:
what browski said!!!
Heck, most third phase recruits at the Marine Corps Recruiting Depots can run 18 minute 3 milers.
You are so wrong about this. 18 minute 3 milers are rare in the Marine Corps.
One other thing - 18 minutes for 3 miles is not 18 minutes for 5k, it's more like 18:40.
Hichiro maybe...nobody else.
browski wrote:
It's threads like this that prove just how retarded runners are. The arrogance to think some of the best athletes in the world can't run a freakin' 18 min 5k. Good grief.
Runners aren't the only ones who have these type of discussions. Athletes in all sports compare theymselves to athletes of other sports. The truth is we are all pretty ignorant of what it takes to be at the top of some other sport.
Well, there are two guys I can think of that were just classic runners, both retired now. But, these guys could run, ran like mid-distance runners, smooth and fast.
Darren Lewis, Bernie Williams.
assuming that no MLB players could break 18, what do you think about that?
The relevant question is: why would they want to?
On The Contrary wrote:
On the contrary, for well-conditioned lean athletes like Ichiro, a 6:00 mile is a snap.
I remember in the old days when I used to watch "Superstars" and they would have half-mile runs. There were soccer players and other "non-runners" who could do the thing in 1:55. I'm sure some of thoese guys could do a mile well under 5:00.
I wonder if you are making fun of Superstars because it was pretty obvious that it was designed to make the pros look good. The times and distances were always fudged. It was light hearted competition at best.
As for how hard an 18 min 5km is for a pro athlete - my buddy is 39, 10-15 pounds overwieght and runs 20 miles a week tops and he can still run an 18 min 5km. His PR was 16mins.
So I find it hard to believe in the entire ML there isnt a single 20 yr old hotshot that can't keep up with my buddy for 18 mins.
theboltmon wrote:
The question you should be asking yourself is: can even ONE world champ distance runner hit a home run?
With a bit of practice, Nick Symmonds or Bob Tahri probably could.
goofy dufus wrote:
How many elite runners could hit more than 4 pitches thrown in the stike zone out of 100 and make it to first base safely if pitched by a major league pitcher and fielded by a mlb team?
you can't compare runners to baseball players in terms of baseball ability. most athletic activities tend to require SOME form of aerobic activity, which is why some ball players should be decent runners (although most are fat asses). very few sports require such great hand-eye coordination. so, of course elite runners couldn't hit a baseball.
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Not An Expert wrote:I'm not sure about the XC results, but I know he placed in the 100m at the the whatever-class-his-HS-is Texas T&F State Championship. I want to say he ran 10.4 or 10.5.
are you sure you "know" that? isn't track season during baseball season?
Deion Sanders played b-ball and ran track at FSU. So I'd be willing to bet a high-schooler could do the same.
Shane Victorino?
Rick Ankiel - 16:47
Bobzx wrote:
Clay Buchholz ran a 16:30 for his HS XC team in TX, and he still has it... Reports said he kills everyone else on the Sox in spring training morning runs.
FWIW.
Plus Jaccoby Ellsbury could run 14flat, right now if he wanted to. But there isn't enough poon in distance running for him to even want to try.
he's Indian he'd Billy Mills you
Jeremy Sowers, a Cleveland Indians starting pitcher, would have a good shot at breaking 18:00.