without a doubt the guy is dirty!
without a doubt the guy is dirty!
wc100 wrote:
10.03 in 2007 to 9.58 in 2009 . You are on and smoking the same stuff as Bolt
15 - 20.58 200m
16 - 45.35 400m, 20.13 200m
17 - 19.93 200m
18 - 19.99
19 - 19.88
20 - 19.75 / 10.03
21 - 19.3 / 9.69
22 - 9.58
Look at how fast he was as a high schooler. Nobody compares to him. Ever.
Man, it's amazing he managed to get a hold of steroids that early in high school!
the problem is that he is going to be around for many years unless he is busted!! The Jamaican fed is protecting him cf.
the latest operation during the Jamaican nationals!!
why no 100 times on there? he never ran it? he must be the only great 200 guy without ever running the 100.
He aint on roids here, look how skinny he is. Thats talent. He runs a sick time with poor form. If anyone can run 9.58 its the dude who runs 20.5 as a 15 year old.
Jim Ryan ran 3:55 at age 18 nearly 50 years ago to beat Peter Snell, the Olympic gold medalist. He's just one example. It's not like we haven't seen talent at a young age before.
Nah, he just needs to so superglue those big ears back and wear a speed suit and he will break 9.50 LoL.
666 wrote:
wc100 wrote:10.03 in 2007 to 9.58 in 2009 . You are on and smoking the same stuff as Bolt
15 - 20.58 200m
16 - 45.35 400m, 20.13 200m
17 - 19.93 200m
18 - 19.99
19 - 19.88
20 - 19.75 / 10.03
21 - 19.3 / 9.69
22 - 9.58
Look at how fast he was as a high schooler. Nobody compares to him. Ever.
Yes, he was/is an amazing talent..but how do you go from 19.75 and 10.03 to 19.30 and 9.58 in just two years...?
pose method baby! VIN-DI-CA-TION
exactly he is what obea moore and countless others could have been if they fulfilled their potential
Ryun ran his 3:55 because he ran over 100 miles per week, every week for years and years leading up to his phenomenal time. He did this pretty much all on 400 repeats. That is hard work.Bolt on the other hand trains mostly by driving around in his sports car and getting drunk in london, miami and kingston. What does that tell you?
Guppy wrote:
Jim Ryan ran 3:55 at age 18 nearly 50 years ago to beat Peter Snell, the Olympic gold medalist. He's just one example. It's not like we haven't seen talent at a young age before.
Announcer screwed up. It was a +.9 m/s tailwind (not a headwind). Anyway, pretty amazing and well within the allowable limits.
wc100 wrote:
why no 100 times on there? he never ran it? he must be the only great 200 guy without ever running the 100.
Are you serious? How many 100 results can you find on Michael Johnson? Bolt was a 200-400 guy in High School. 45.x as a senior. He did run 4x1s in high school, and the team ran 39.15, so I guess we can assume he was sub 10 then (with a rolling start), unless the other guys on the Jamaican junior squad were carrying him.
Guppy wrote:
Jim Ryan ran 3:55 at age 18 nearly 50 years ago to beat Peter Snell, the Olympic gold medalist. He's just one example. It's not like we haven't seen talent at a young age before.
Jim Ryun ran during the emerging era of middle-distance running, prior to there being professionals, better equipment, better training, etc etc.
Modern day sprinting has had each of these benefits for some time now; Bolt running 9.58 is like if Asbel Kiprop were to record 3:24.0 in the 1500.
Don’t try to reason with them.
If Bolt had gone to an American University and taken out American citizenship at about 19 - d’you think these threads would now be so full of jealous hatred?
No, as long as he’s be running around the stadium waving the American flag, he’d be a famous, clean as a whistle, American super-star.
Now I dunno if he's juiced or not, I often say that he IS, but either way, I think most are and he is the best of all of them.
Why did he improve so much? I've noticed Bolt ever since he ran that first sub 20 as junior. I saw some good 400m times as well, and always thought of him as the next MJ. His camp did also, not as the next MJ, but as a long sprinter. He always ran the 200m with a occasional 400m.
Finally in 2007 - 2008, they began to focus on speed to improve as a 200m runner. You'll find past articles from around that period citing this. Soon he exploded, found his talent with the adjusted training. He was always a huge talent at 100m, he just never trained as one.
Lorenzo the Magnificent wrote:
Perfect athlete's 100m sprint time calculated
13:32 28 November 2008 by David Robson
Usain Bolt and Michael Phelps slashed world records in this year's Olympics, but eventually athletes will reach the limits of the human body, making it much harder to trump previous performances.
The fastest possible time for the 100 metres will be 9.48 seconds, according to new research.
Mark Denny from Stanford University in Pacific Grove, California, examined performance records for greyhounds, racing horses, and human athletes from the 1920s to the present day. He found that for various greyhound and horse races, the top speeds reached a plateau between the 1940s and the 1970s.
This may be because fierce selective breeding helped the animals to reach an optimum body type for racing. Improved training methods have helped female sprinters to reach their optimum performances too, with increasingly fewer significant improvements since the 70s.
Male track athletes haven't yet reached a plateau in this way, but fitting the data to a mathematical model that matches the other results, Denny predicts future male sprinters will at best shave 0.21 seconds off Usain Bolt's current world record of 9.69 seconds for the 100 metres.
Female marathon runners seem even closer to reaching their plateau, with the projected future world record just 2 minutes 44 seconds shorter than Paula Radcliffe's current record.
Abbe Brady, a sports scientist from the University of Gloucestershire in the UK, points out that while it's possible that human performances will reach a plateau in this way, we are still changing the way we train and select athletes, so the predicted values may be conservative.
Journal reference: Journal of Experimental Biology
(DOI: 10.1242/jeb.024968)
Yes and in 1950 they said no one could run a 4 minute mile either ...
Um, who is his doctor/chemist/trainer? Who ever he is he is impressive. Every guy who has come close to the 100m record in the past 10 years has a drug connection and now we are supposed to believe that a clean Bolt destroys it? I give it 2 years before he retires unexcpectedly or is caught. All I gotta say is freeze a blood sample.
Doubtful wrote:
Ryun ran his 3:55 because he ran over 100 miles per week, every week for years and years leading up to his phenomenal time. He did this pretty much all on 400 repeats. That is hard work.
Bolt on the other hand trains mostly by driving around in his sports car and getting drunk in london, miami and kingston. What does that tell you?
Pregnant Guppy wrote:
Jim Ryun ran during the emerging era of middle-distance running, prior to there being professionals, better equipment, better training, etc etc.
Modern day sprinting has had each of these benefits for some time now; Bolt running 9.58 is like if Asbel Kiprop were to record 3:24.0 in the 1500.
Exactly my point. I was addressing the people who say he ran fast early on, so it's not surprising he's running crazy times now. Bolt going from 19.93 at 19 years old to 9.58 and who the hell knows how fast in the 200m just a few years later would be like Jim Ryan going from 3:55 to 3:38 (mile) or something. It's just absurd. I can't believe the how illogical people here are. The chances of Bolt being clean are practically zero.
RIP: D3 All-American Frank Csorba - who ran 13:56 in March - dead
RENATO can you talk about the preparation of Emile Cairess 2:06
Running for Bowerman Track Club used to be cool now its embarrassing
Hats off to my dad. He just ran a 1:42 Half Marathon and turns 75 in 2 months!
Great interview with Steve Cram - says Jakob has no chance of WRs this year