Who is Hadd?

I believe the subject runner's name is actually Giuseppe, not Joe.

http://www.maltamarathon.com.mt/half_98.htm

jerk

What do you mean?

Again, show me prrof of Hadd and what he has done. Yeh, yeh, yeh, yada, yada, yada So and so trained at 155 HR and ran a fast marathon. I guarantee you there is a lot of fast training he forgot to tell you about.

It is simple, train fast, be fast. Sure there is balance, but Hadd makes it sound so easy to run slow 95 percent of the time and you will be fast. Wrong!

Again, the giant Hadd thread was not an overall training plan. It was his thoughts and experience on aerobic base development.

Another ignoramus who stopped reading after the first couple of lines, or else learned "distance running according to Hadd/Lydiard/JK/etc in five easy minutes" third hand by reading posts about posts about posts that vaguely refer to something similar to what Hadd may have written at one time.

If you're going to critise - which is fair game - spend some time actually reading that which you propose to challenge.

It's one thing to live quietly in ignorance - it's quite another to share it with the world.

Pete wrote:

It's one thing to live quietly in ignorance - it's quite another to share it with the world.

That is one of the best quotes I have ever read on this board. It should be the new board theme!

Show me the money!

Come on HADD, where are you? Who are you? Can I call you on the phone and get a real voice? Who is Joe? What about your other disciples? Who are they?

peter snell (an 800m man) followed lydiard's base training philosophy.

hadd's aerobic development phase kicks it up a notch when you can run for an hour at a heart rate of 160 without a drop-off in pace.

mark allen's aerobic development phase ended when he no longer saw improvement in his weekly 8k/5-mile "time trials" run at a heart rate of 155, or it would end a set number of weeks before the goal competition (of course since he was on an annual cycle he could develop his aerobic capacity for months so this didn't necessarily apply to him). before allen trained this way he was forced to walk at the end of the ironman marathon in his many defeats -- afterwards he was a stud in his 30's. his easy pace (at a heart rate of 155) improved by about 2 minutes per mile (from about 8-minute pace to about 6-minute pace) when he first started training this way.

another prime example of a runner who used a heart rate monitor to extend his career is marcus sullivan.

Let's get back to the original question. Who is Hadd? Not Lydiard or anyone else. We know those results and that they were successful. Hadd's approach is similar, but not exactly the same. We just want to know if the guy is who he says he is and where is the proof?

And I would like to know who is "Has Been!!!!!!!!" but I'm not holding my breath that you'll offer up your name, although I think I have an idea what other main handle you go by.

Aw come on Pete, how did you guess?

FW

Has Been!!!!!!!! wrote:

We just want to know if the guy is who he says he is and where is the proof?

Pull out your Hooked on Phonics book. (You'll want to start at the very beginning). Once you are confident you can read at a 3rd grade level, try reading through Hadd's thread. In the thread, you will notice that there is no issue of Hadd being "who he says he is" because he never says who he is.

Also, I highly doubt that Hadd gives two shits if you question what he has to say. Before delving into his thread, why don't you start with the title "One approach to distance training." One approach.

There is a reason why there are a bunch of Hadd disciples running around this board. And it isn't on account of being on Hadd's payroll. You say you know the results of Lydiard's success. Well, there appear to be many examples of people on this board who have had success with Hadd's methods. I'm willing to go out on a limb and guess that your talent level is closer to theirs than it is to that of Peter Snell.

Finally, if you have "proof" that some other system works, it sounds like you should be all set then. Not sure why you are bothering to look at other training methods when you already appear to possess the proof.

Sorry, nope. Don't think so.

......and I don't know why guys (or gals) like you get so worked up because I demand proof. Before I go and devote my every workout to some fictitios character, I want to make sure it works. It seems to me that a bunch of old farts like Pete and others are the only ones who have tried it with limited success if any.

Chill out and quit taking up for a story book character. There are many ways to be fast (some theories oppose each other....but still work). and you can actually see or know a "real" person who has proven it.

Who are you to demand proof? Why should anyone care what you want for yourself? The information is out there, take it or leave it.

I remember a bunch of people getting all worked up last spring when I asked for "proof" of WMD in Iraq. Now that was some pretty funny stuff. Still makes me chuckle, looking back. What a card, that ole Dubya, eh?

You've got me square - I'm an old fart who's made limited gains.

I think I also got you square, too.

jerk

Huh? Wht wouldn't anyone demand proof. That is my right and if you have some proof that you are holding back, then , cough it up!