Who is Hadd?

Hadd is John Kellogg.

Has he coached anyone of particular note?

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Hadd is John Kellogg.

Wrong

You might be able to find Hadd here....

Who cares? Get over it already.

He tried to get some of us to run extra slow in order to run fast. Stupid idea and no one really knew who he was, supposedly overseas in Italy-HA!

read the lore of running by tim noakes -- mark allen's base training was done at heart rates below 155. yeah, that was a stupid idea because he really sucked afterward (winning the ironman triathlon 6 times, and he was able to run a 2:40 marathon after 100 miles of biking).

http://vnews.ironmanlive.com/vnews/markallen/1011626750/

Yeah, Lydiard had his guys run slow to eventually run fast. Canova has his guys run slow before they run fast. JK has his guys run slow before they run fast. Stupid idiots, all of them.

I bet you can run some awesome quarter workouts and are a tough as nails runner. Am I right?! Lets hear how good you are!

Oh yeah, back when Hadd would generously grace this board, Marc Davis (among others) commended his approach and even asked if he could use one of Hadd's analogies in his own coaching. Of course, Marc was another stupid slow runner.

I wonder why Hadd chooses not to chime in much. Probably because their are already so many smart runners who know all there is to know.

Me, I would take Has Been's advice any day of the week before any of the guys listed above.

OK, so it looks like I am not going to find out who Hadd is. Please post your experiences using Hadd approach for the marathon. This approach is very interesting to me since I have PR'd a few times in 5/10K after just base training. I went into these races with the mindset that they were just a fitness checkpoint for me to set my interval and T paces. I was suprised at how well I performed. Even more suprising was how dissapointing my race results were after an interval phase.

I thought maybe Hadd was the name of a former world class runner or coach but an internet search did not turn anything up.

Is Hadd Bob Sevene?

I am wondering why the original thread had received so much attention when afterall:

1. Nobody seems to know who Hadd is.

2. If the method is legit and has results to prove it then why is the subject runner refered to as just "Joe" and his veriyable goal marathon results are not posted?

3. Likewise, if Hadd has credentials then why does he post with a fake name?

4. The thread has no followups from those who have tried it.

Show me da money

Show you the money.. no one disagrees with Hadd's training, at least not the main idea of it.

Patience, my son. Ask and ye shall receive.

Run a search for John Hadd. That should turn something up.

If you are fairly new to the board you would have missed a thread he started in which he explained his approach to coaching, which he does in Itlay, and answered question after question posed by readers. It was a really massive undertaking and since then he has pretty much maintained a silence at Letsrun.

If you want a description of his approach, there's a short one on one of the recent "Lydiard" threads. I forget the title of the thread, but it's been active in the last day or so.

Hadd is an evolutionist who teaches running philosohy as a quiet hobby.

aerobic blaster no.5 wrote:

Hadd is an evolutionist who teaches running philosohy as a quiet hobby.

Wrong! Read the article - The guy is arguing the creationist cause.

Suspect it is not the same guy... ;-)

Hadd is an enigma.

He came quietly, offered some admittedly old ideas, packaged with wide-ranging illustrative examples and "ex. phys. to layman" translation, so that anyone who took the time to read could understand what he was saying. And then he left as quietly as he came, asking nothing and expecting nothing.

Those of you who keep equating Hadd's approach to slow running obviously stopped reading after the first couple of lines. While he states that most people run their easy days too fast, and gives guidelines for how to keep the aerobic running at the right effort, there is plenty of faster running, particularly as the program progresses.

I dabbled with his approach last year, but being a free spirit didn't quite manage to actually follow the details. What I did do, though, was take two things to heart: in the monster thread he suggested that I was probably running too little mileage, and most of it too fast. So I set out to run more, and run (mostly) slower.

I can't (yet) claim any dazzling "oh-my-god" gains, but I did enjoy steady improvement and much better consistency. I ran 10 or 12 races (depending on how you count them), and hit 5 PRs (5K, twice at 5M, half-mary and full-pull). None of them were very big, but still, that's a pretty decent success rate. On top of that, my average race result was a half minute faster than the previous two years. And I turned 38 this summer. To me, that's more telling.

This year, I'm jumping on board all the way. The HRM (goddamn thing) will get strapped on more frequently, and I'll work much more methodically towards specific mileages and HRs. Then, when I'm ready, I'll move beyond Phase I (the monster thread only describes the base phase, or what he called Phase I) into the "sexier" part, and get those 7 or 8 minutes on 26.2 to win JEH's beer.

Based on what I know of how some other people have progressed (CD posted his results on the Lydiard thread, but there are many more), I fully expect to make better gains this year. And then next year I'll be a faster master (eddy, look out!).

Happy running...

I am telling you, Hadd is John Kellogg. Why do you think Wejo favors Hadd so much?

I've never seen wejo post a comment about Hadd. Have you? It's OK to speculate (I don't think anyone here actually has any real biographical information about Hadd), but I honestly don't see any basis for making that connection, apart from similarities in philosophy. Whaddya got?

What are you talking about?