So I'm getting a fake ID in a few days (older friend)... what all should I learn about it?
I've been told that zodiac sign is a common trivia question given by bouncers, anything else I should learn?
So I'm getting a fake ID in a few days (older friend)... what all should I learn about it?
I've been told that zodiac sign is a common trivia question given by bouncers, anything else I should learn?
uhh, are you a dude?
because it is a trick. If a big bouncer ask for your zodiac sign you gotta say "what the f#ck is that?"
If a bouncer or proprietor realizes your ID is fake, just admit it, let them take it, and go home. If you try to run, you'll have the cops on your back in minutes and be facing jail time depending on the area. I saw this scene unfold last night.
That's funny. I have a friend who got busted with a fake ID, and now whenever she fills out government forms, she has to write her fake name in the "have you ever used an alias" box.
Do not get a fake ID. Do not use a fake ID. Using a fake ID is the same as lying to the government since it is being used as a government form. Lying to the government will get you in deep trouble.
Remember this: Martha Stewart did not go to jail for insider trading, she went to jail for lying about it.
lying is not a crime
hello wrote:
lying is not a crime
If you lie to the United States government, it is a crime. I didn't make the law, I'm just telling you a fact. You may or may not agree with it, but it is a law.
hello wrote:
lying is not a crime
Yes it is, in certain situations. It's called perjury, dumbass.
Free Advice wrote:
Remember this: Martha Stewart did not go to jail for insider trading, she went to jail for lying about it.
She lied while under oath smart one. If there's a judge and bailiff standing at the door of the bar I'm trying to get into swearing people in and asking "are you the person on this ID" I'll probably find another bar.
Free Advice wrote:
Do not get a fake ID. Do not use a fake ID. Using a fake ID is the same as lying to the government since it is being used as a government form. Lying to the government will get you in deep trouble.
Remember this: Martha Stewart did not go to jail for insider trading, she went to jail for lying about it.
Whatever, you'll be fine. I had a fake, many people I knew had fakes. No one ever got in trouble.
I put my real name on the fake ID for two reasons:
1) If they ask for a second form of ID you can pull out your debit/credit card
2) If a friend refers to you by name it will match
Also, refer to the card as your drivers license, not your ID.
Title 18 of the US Code, Section 1001
(a) Except as otherwise provided in this section, whoever, in any matter within the jurisdiction of the executive, legislative, or judicial branch of the Government of the United States, knowingly and willfully—
(1) falsifies, conceals, or covers up by any trick, scheme, or device a material fact;
(2) makes any materially false, fictitious, or fraudulent statement or representation; or
(3) makes or uses any false writing or document knowing the same to contain any materially false, fictitious, or fraudulent statement or entry;
shall be fined under this title, imprisoned not more than 5 years or, if the offense involves international or domestic terrorism (as defined in section 2331), imprisoned not more than 8 years, or both. If the matter relates to an offense under chapter 109A, 109B, 110, or 117, or section 1591, then the term of imprisonment imposed under this section shall be not more than 8 years.
I continue to stand by my advice NOT to get or use a fake ID.
Title 18, Section 1001 applies to EVERYTHING that has to do with the government and/or government forms, including driver's licenses that have been falsified and presented as accurate. If you knowingly provide false information on ANYTHING, Title 18, Section 1001 can be used against you.
To clarify a few things: I'm 19 and not retarded (is nonretarded or unretarded a word?). Just happen to live in a country where the drinking age is 21.
I didn't post this to get scolded by people who apparently never went to college, I posted to hear from current/former bouncers or people who have dealt with bouncers before to see what I need to prepare for to avoid getting my fake taken away (the harshest penalty I've ever heard of for using a fake at a bar... Liquor stores are a different story).
Thanks to the people who gave real advice of not making a scene if an authority tries to take it away and to always refer to it as my drivers license, not my ID.
LRC forum must be under the jurisdiction of one of the branches of the government. I mean everything in the US is under the jurisdiction of the government, right? Therefore, many if not most of the posters here could be subject to not more than 5 years imprisonment under (a)(3) above.
Don't get a fake ID and don't make up stuff when you post at LRC forum!
we are all in deep trouble for posting false pr's.
drivers licenses are state issued, not federally granted documents. passports - federal, DLs - state. title 18 section 1001 can eat it off the floor.
That's a huge relief and great to know! Glad I can keep on using mine and scoring the lonely divorced chicks after knocking back the margaritas they buy for me. Keep the summer going strong!!!
Make sure you get one that scans. If the bartender/liquor store clerk is suspicious they'll scan it, and they will be suspicious when you bring your Arizona ID into a Delaware bar. If it doesn't scan they just won't accept it usually.
i agree with the dude saying DO NOT remmeber ur zodiac sign... id remmeber urs n the next months n say like ì dont effin know , cancer or gemini or something... `n theyll say ok hes not gay n hes telling the truth
wordsonashirt wrote:
i agree with the dude saying DO NOT remmeber ur zodiac sign... id remmeber urs n the next months n say like ì dont effin know , cancer or gemini or something... `n theyll say ok hes not gay n hes telling the truth
cripes. isn't it past your bed time?
nope its not