Bekele's 5000m Record Splits

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Optimized time for 12:37.6 5000.0m based on even pacing:

12:35.12

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Mtn Dew wrote:

I don't have 400m splits, I wish I did. I've just got 1000m splits.

just watched the wr on youtube and they give out most the splits or you can work them out based on 1km splits...

200=28.75

600=61.98

1000=62.51

1400= 61.14

1800=60.59

2200=61.11

2600=60.91

3000=60.35

3400=59.5

3800=60.49

4200=61.01

4600=61.23

5000=57.80

1000m splits were fine. What I really need is a description of the source of them. I'm asking because there's academic research out there that concludes you should pace a 5K on--I kid you not--a 15 sec positive split from mile 1 to miles 2 and 3. I need to point out that whatever might be happening in laboratory treadmill tests, that is now how WRs are run. (I have my guesses about what's going on in the lab tests, but I need the real world data to point out that it does not produce peak performances at the elite level.)

Track results are good for this, even though I'm talking to road racers, because there aren't any hills or long upwind/downwind stretches, etc.

I found another thread with Bekele's 10K splits (by km) , which is useful.

Letsrun is a great source for such information, but if I can track it back a little closer to an official data source that would be ideal.

Thanks

well, are you looking for the source of data then??

if you watch the race on youtube, the 1000m splits are shown if thats good enough.

Tron wrote:

Mtn Dew wrote:

I don't have 400m splits, I wish I did. I've just got 1000m splits.

just watched the wr on youtube and they give out most the splits or you can work them out based on 1km splits...

200=28.75

600=61.98

1000=62.51

1400= 61.14

1800=60.59

2200=61.11

2600=60.91

3000=60.35

3400=59.5

3800=60.49

4200=61.01

4600=61.23

5000=57.80

That 62.51 lap sure stands out as an outlier...seems pacing was better after that but maybe a faster time was possible that day.

hogwash research done by non-runners on a topic they don't understand.

It all comes from watching videos of the various races and watching the race clock included in the broadcast. If you want to see splits that aren't already part of the broadcast (usually 1k and sometimes 400m are included) you just have to pause the video and write down the clock time and figure the spits out on your own. Just pay attention to when the track starts to turn. 100 meter splits are impossible because international track are 86 meters long on the straits.

This stuff might be documented somewhere, like in articles written right after the race happened, but just watching them on youtube is probably the fastest way to compile all this information.

Look up and watch bekele and Geb 10k/5k WR and the Daniel Komen 3k WR and El G 1500 and mile WR. Since some of the women's WR date back awhile, you might not find them. Ayana 10k, and Genzeba Dibaba have recent WR that you should be able to find.

Enjoy.