Mizuki Noguchi = 4'11 (150 cm)
dick hertz wrote:
what does height have to do with anything?
Mizuki Noguchi = 4'11 (150 cm)
dick hertz wrote:
what does height have to do with anything?
The thing that jumps out at me isn't that she's only 5' tall. It's that she has a 5 month old. That's the impressive part of this whole equation. $10k should buy a lot of diapers
Noob wrote:
Same think with most of the great women; Kenyans, Ethiopians, Japanese, most of them are very, very small. Smaller is better in the distance races- its more efficient. I can appreciate how hard it must be to train with a newborn, but being short is an advantage if you're a talented distance runner, not a disadvantage.
Paula Radcliffe is 5'9"/118 and has, statistically, the least touchable world record of both men and women. Think of a light, taller runner as a "bigger wheel"-- doesn't have to turnover as many times as a "smaller wheel" to cover an equal distance, which means it's more efficient.
Tall and not a Noob wrote:
Paula Radcliffe is 5'9"/118 and has, statistically, the least touchable world record of both men and women. Think of a light, taller runner as a "bigger wheel"-- doesn't have to turnover as many times as a "smaller wheel" to cover an equal distance, which means it's more efficient.
The wheel example is a good one. You are correct that a bigger wheel will go farther per rotation than a smaller one -- but it takes more energy to rotate it! In fact, if you hook a big wheel and a small wheel up to the same motor, they will go the same speed, though of course the small one will turn faster.
All things being equal, a taller runner will have a longer stride but a slower turnover. (Though in practice, most taller runners cut their stride length a bit to gain turnover, as this reduces injury.)
Shorter runners tend to have an advantage over longer distances because of their lower weight. To make a long story short, weight tends to increase based on something between the square and cube of height, whereas stride length is directly related. So, if you have someone with a 20% increase in height (say 5'5" to 6'6"), they are going to weigh about 1.2^2.5 = 1.57 more, but their stride length is going to be about 1.2 times as long. That's a losing bargain for the taller runner.
All of that said, there are people who defy norms and get tall without getting heavy, as well as people who can carry a little extra weight without a problem. Paula Radcliffe is certainly one of them. But she is an outlier.
It is what it is, Granny. Ain't won on this level.
GrandmaB wrote:
Runner-up? Second in the field of 6000 runners, first among Americans... When you can run a 10K in 33.04 minutes, feel free to dismiss the accomplishments of this amazing young woman.
chicken dinner wrote:Runner-up, at best, at this point.
You're right, she "Ain't won on this level." But does that mean we should discount what she accomplished. Hell, if Brett Gotcher or someone finished 2nd in as solid a field (Olympic Marathon Silver medalist, US Trials marathon champ) I think people would be a little more excited. This is a pretty impressive performance for a relative unknown. In the end though, you're right she didn't win, so therefore tough cookies. Not much to cheer for in American running then.
missing the tough part wrote:The thing that jumps out at me isn't that she's only 5' tall. It's that she has a 5 month old. That's the impressive part of this whole equation. $10k should buy a lot of diapers
About a 6-month supply of Luvs.
We're not, it's discounting the overstatement of her accomplishments earlier in this thread. It's about her fanboys, not her. Oh, and that "Olympic Marathon Silver medalist"? She was jogging, intentionally. I confess, I'm also a fan and look forward to following her career trajectory. Just be real.
Sorry hardset nipples, but Ndereba was not jogging intentionally. Said she tried her best to a local reporter.
In today's Analytical Distance Runner, the publication of the Association of Road Racing Statisticians, Serena Burla's performance at the MINI vaulted her into the top-10 American women in their points standings. Deena Kastor lost points because she finished 113th, but still ranks fifth:
2888 TR Kara Goucher (OR)
2866 Tr Shalane Flanagan (OR)
2851 T Jennifer Barringer (CO)
2778 T Jennifer Rhines (CA)
2770 R Deena Kastor (CA)
2762 Tr Serena Burla (MO)
2754 Tr Amy Begley (OR)
2752 Rt Kathryn McGregor (MN)
2747 R Sally Meyerhoff (AZ)
2730 Rt Magdalena Lewy (CA)
No serious runners in the race? I am constantly amazed at how nasty side-of-the-road critics can be. Serena ran a fine race with a more than decent time and still folks want to trash her and her accomplishment. It all comes around folks. Let's see what she does at USATF Outdoors and see if she runs around the circle as well as she ran in the park and then if she does well how some folks will trash that.
No serious runners in this race. So the Silver in China does not count...two world championships (and not ten years ago but recent)? I am amazed and how nasty side-of-the-road critics can be. Serena ran a very, very good time and she has had a record of continuted improvement. Why can't people just appreciate an accomplishment without having to trash people. If she does well running the circles in the 10K at the Outdoors are folks going to come up with a way to belittle that too?
My bad, I meant the bronze medalist in the race.
Is there an echo in here?
Silver will do, hardly hard, and I personally await your arcane and insighful analysis after Nationals. In fact I am sure the whole county awaits for you to opine from you couch.
Oh.