NEWS: Kara Goucher to Run WC Marathon in Berlin

wait... condoms are only 98% effective? 98% effective against pregnancy or against STD's?

what about condoms AND the pill?

insight wrote:

I think we just caught Concrete Runner thinkng he was posting under another name. With this post as evidence, do you think we can narrow down his alter-ego?

Stick a fork in him!

Talking Worlds with Kara Goucher

They don't put a-cups in Playboy unless they're attached to a truly famous person. Ditto 32-28-32 "women."

NObama... wrote:

Who Cares??

A.) Kara ran a SLOW time and still couldn't win Boston.

B.) The Marathon sucks.

C.) If she would pose for Playboy I might be interested.

German, English, American Guy wrote:

sex ed wrote:

I can't believe I'm actually commenting on this, but for all you middle schoolers out there, there are actually *several* rather effective methods of birth control besides condoms one might use if one is in a monogamous relationship. But remember, kids, only barrier methods protect against STDs.

lol mate, here's to you! YOu beat me to it! Lovin the post!

For the record: Break a leg Kara, I'd love for you to win it, but as a German I have to say "Go, Irina!"

Mikitenko FTW because, like with Kara in NYC and Boston, the Germans can see to it that her test samples taken in Berlin aren't viable. Oops!

I wouldn't be surprised if Paula no-shows again. She often says she's going to do stuff and then doesn't because of injury.

Everyone knows Paula's main priority is to have baby number 2 at the moment. She and Gary and definitely trying harder than Kara and Adam.

Paula's number 2 priority is 2012 Olympic gold - it is one of the few things she doesn't have and one of the few things she wants.

Only half of Paula wants to do Berlin - she already has WC gold from Helsinki and winning Berlin would not change her resume much: it won't even consolidate her postion above Ndereba as the woman's marathon GOAT because Ndereba has won tonnes of WC medals.

W. Cierpinski wrote:

Mikitenko FTW because, like with Kara in NYC and Boston, the Germans can see to it that her test samples taken in Berlin aren't viable. Oops!

Right... that's why she won in London... twice!

btw: are these just random accusations or do you actually ahve proof something like that happened. (not the "seeing to it" but the viablility part)

Nutella wrote:

At the WC, she will win .... the prize for the prettiest runner. That's about it. No chance to win or podium.

When it comes to making money I'd rather be Kara than any of the east african women.

She good enough to get respect, but she's cute and speaks English so she can make her $$$ through marketing and promotions.

She doesn't have to be a WR holder or Oly champ to make the cash, and in the end that's all that really matters.

Whoever wants to win that WC marathon, she better be able to handle high temperatures. The womens's race is scheduled for 11:45 am local time. Expect 80°F and more. It's gonna get ugly.

If her, Mik, and Paula are all on the start line healthy it will make for some race. It is set up well for Kara. It will be interesting to see if Paula goes out at sub 2:20 pace. Can Kara handle that?

it alllllllways depends wrote:

wait... condoms are only 98% effective? 98% effective against pregnancy or against STD's?

what about condoms AND the pill?

Condoms are 98% effective against pregnancy and and almost 100% against HIV transmission. There isn't an effective way to measure how well condoms are against other STIs. Condoms are the only form of contraception that also protect against STIs. You have to keep in mind though, they can only protect what they cover, so if a person has HPV, a condom might not completely protect you!

Condoms AND the pill is the gold standard in contraceptive and STI protection. A person like me finds it hard to leave all the work up to the female because a lot of girls tend to forgot to take their birth control pill.

German, English, American guy wrote:

W. Cierpinski wrote:

Mikitenko FTW because, like with Kara in NYC and Boston, the Germans can see to it that her test samples taken in Berlin aren't viable. Oops!

Right... that's why she won in London... twice!

btw: are these just random accusations or do you actually ahve proof something like that happened. (not the "seeing to it" but the viablility part)

What does winning London twice have to do with anything? In-competition testing only catches desperate idiots, unless they are desperate idiots on whose backs the administrators market the sport heavily.

Proof of what? Athletes getting away with doping while authorities look the other way while acting like they really want to catch all dopers? Are you really that naive?

Mate, I'm not saying that there aren't a bunch off dirty a$$holes and that the general suspicion sadly hangs over every champ out there.

However, I think with the German anti-doping efforts (don't bring up East Germany, please) one can safely say that the probability for German T&F athletes to be dirty is on the lower end of the scale in comparison with the rest of the world. (again, not saying it is even close to zero)

Now I know, Mikitenko is originally from Kazachstan, which has a general suspicion of PEDs through its involvement in the soviet union. But accusing the German NADA of 'seeing to' making the tests non-viable is a bit random without anything to back that up.

And btw. nice name...

I'm sure you would've said the same thing about Baumann. Mikitenko is also rather advanced in age for an athlete and has been at a high level in the sport for an unusually long time and didn't really break through to the top until she went to the marathon just a few years ago. Before that she was an also-ran, at best, and never a legit challenger in running.

FI I had been of a decent age when he ran, I probably would have half-wishingly said so, and believe, even as young as I was back then I was still devastated when I heard his whole deal about somebody "spiking his toothpaste".

I just hope for a good race at the WC and do not believe there are much more hints pointing to Mikitenko being dirty than there are concerning most other athletes, as she has not made any large improvements on her PB at a time, nor is she continuously improving, but actually going through good and bad patches. And btw, there are actually quite a few really good marathoners at her age, who were just also-rans' for the longest time in their career, I believe.

But to be honest, I would not be completely surprised if there were some bad news surfacing at some point. But then again I wouldn't really be with any of the top-notch elite athletes out there (with the exception of a few)...

W. Cierpinski wrote:

German, English, American Guy wrote:

lol mate, here's to you! YOu beat me to it! Lovin the post!

For the record: Break a leg Kara, I'd love for you to win it, but as a German I have to say "Go, Irina!"

Mikitenko FTW because, like with Kara in NYC and Boston, the Germans can see to it that her test samples taken in Berlin aren't viable. Oops!

Like Gatlin at the Kansas Relays! They sure took care of that one!

Nutella wrote:

At the WC, she will win .... the prize for the prettiest runner. That's about it. No chance to win or podium.

predict a lot of hype, a 2:27 and 5th, followed by a lto more hype and hubris from the Goucher/Salazar camp, mixed in with some tears