POSE. Finally we have proof.

Front leg is too far forward, over-striding (breaking). Probably not enough room.

Overstriding like woah, leaning far too forward.

Pose method is correct in that leaning forward is required for acceleration, but at a constant speed the body should be vertical. Leaning forward when at a constant speed leads to overstriding and a lack of power.

Any results that pose method gets are due to the hip strengthening exercises and correcting overstriding, not due to their faulty claims which contradict simple physics.

How does the pose method contradict simple physics?

Also, doesn't El G run with a great amount of forward lean?

dr. yakkov makes a lot of b.s. claims which sound good to uneducated hicks (most americans)

I have no idea about POSE or Dr. Whoever, but you can tell from the video that the guy was trying to slow down before he ran into something. Put anyone, barefoot, on an open field and their stride will look OK (assuming they have a normal range of motion).

It's a tarp indeed

Ultimately the POSE method can not contradict physics. Proponents of POSE often claim that the method uses the force of gravity to propel you forward. They are not very clear at explaining how POSE changes the direction of this downward vector by 90 degrees, or how POSE does that better than other techniques.

jump on it wrote:

How does the pose method contradict simple physics?

The guy in the video is clearly heel striking, which makes his forward lean even more akward. I don't think even Dr. Roma-whatever would claim this guy.

That is quite a hilarious yet sad video. Whomever posted it doesn't have much a clue about POSE method. I would suggest looking here for knowledge: www.posetech.com

Jhuffman wrote:

That is quite a hilarious yet sad video. Whomever posted it doesn't have much a clue about POSE method. I would suggest looking here for knowledge:

http://www.posetech.com

Jhuffman,

Is this what John McDonnell taught you at Arkansas? I don't remember ever hearing him talk about Pose at any of his lectures. Maybe it was something you picked up BEFORE you were there. If he didn't implement this style of running with his athletes, do you think he would have been even more succesful if he had? Maybe even won 60 national titles?

What is this crap? A person should only lean forward when accelerating, not while running at a constant pace. Also, your footstrike should be on the midfoot landing under your hips. Not with your heels landing way out in front of you.

Honestly, this is the type of crap that designers use and why so many shoes on the market suck. People with a good amount of design knowledge take an extremely dumbed-down version of an anatomy course and magically think they can design a shoe to fit the biomechanics of a human running.

Basically, that video isn't how we should actually run.

Runner THX1137 wrote:

Is this what John McDonnell taught you at Arkansas?

I'm pretty sure the guy is accelerating in this video. If you watch sprinters start they look similar in the first couple of meters. He straightens at the end because he is no longer accelerating.

This is actually typical running style of someone who basically never runs. Watch the average person who runs across a street in front of a car or through a crosswalk. They all do that kind of lurching forward lean with long strides. Basically it is a kind of reluctant sprint compromise.

It has nothing to do with real running though.

This is how crossfitter explains it

http://media.crossfit.com/cf-video/AgainFaster_CFE_WheelAnalogyPre.wmv

We have had proof about Pose for a long time:

[quote]Effect of a global alteration of running technique on kinematics and economy.

Dallam GM, Wilber RL, Jadelis K, Fletcher G, Romanov N.

Department of Exercise Science, Health Promotion and Recreation, Colorado State University - Pueblo, Pueblo, CO, USA.

george.dallam@colostate-pueblo.edu

In this study, we examined the consequences of a global alteration in running technique on running kinematics and running economy in triathletes. Sixteen sub-elite triathletes were pre and post tested for running economy and running kinematics at 215 and 250 m.min-1. The members of the treatment group (n=8) were exposed to 12 weeks of instruction in the "pose method" of running, while the members of the control group (n=8) maintained their usual running technique. After the treatment period, the experimental group demonstrated a significant decrease in mean stride length (from 137.25+/-7.63 cm to 129.19+/-7.43 cm; P<0.05), a post-treatment difference in vertical oscillation compared with the control group (6.92+/-1.00 vs. 8.44+/-1.00 cm; P<0.05) and a mean increase in submaximal absolute oxygen cost (from 3.28+/-0.36 l.min-1 to 3.53+/-0.43 l.min-1; P<0.01). The control group exhibited no significant changes in either running kinematics or oxygen cost. The global change in running mechanics associated with 12 weeks of instruction in the pose method resulted in a decrease in stride length, a reduced vertical oscillation in comparison with the control group and a decrease of running economy in triathletes.

sweet thong, that you OP?

jump on it wrote:

How does the pose method contradict simple physics?

As ray-san said, gravity is a force that only pulls on you towards the center of the earth. There is zero contribution from earth's gravity to push you forward.