Bears give two number one draft picks over next two years and Orton. Yes...so exciting!
Bears give two number one draft picks over next two years and Orton. Yes...so exciting!
This will be a good test to see how good Cutler really is. The Bear's receivers, offensive line, and offensive coaching staff won't give him much help.
hester and olsen will be there to grab the darts
yea the bears are definitely the team to beat in the NFC North now...with that defense and upcoming offense I bet they can make it to the NFC Championship
as a broncos fan, pat bowlen continues to piss me off. first he fires the best coach in team history. now he sends off the best QB the team has had since tommy maddox...i mean since elway.
i've been a broncos fan for 22 years, and never have i felt like finding a new team. i do now. i won't, but this mcdaniels nimrod is already pissing me off. part of me wants the team to suck so he gets the boot, and the other half is the die-hard broncos fan who wants them to draft mark sanchez (somehow) and go back to the glory days of elway.
why pat bowlen, why!? good luck cutler! you'll be missed.
The best part is that the Bears will still suck.
Come again? When was the last time your team was in the superbowl? Also they missed the playoffs by one game last year without having a quarterback.
I'm not as sold on Cutler as many other people are. I think the Bears probably overpaid for him. Two number ones and a number three seems like a steep price.
I concur...I am also sick of the "well, the Defense sucks in Denver" excuse as to why Cutler is 17-20 or 17-21 as a starter.
I hope the Bears have plenty of diapers and pablum for the little baby. He shot himself, no one expedited his departure better than him. Then he said, "I didn't want it to go this far". For his sake, I hope he matures a little.
LOL the Bears got raped in this one. They gave up all those draft picks for a diabetic nutjob QB that thinks he's better than John Elway!
Mr. Obvious wrote:
I'm not as sold on Cutler as many other people are. I think the Bears probably overpaid for him. Two number ones and a number three seems like a steep price.
I'd tend to agree. While I always thought Cutler had more upside than his draft peers in Leinhart and Young, and while I believe he does possess Elway-esque raw talent, he doesn't possess Elway-esque resilience or leadership. He had plenty of weapons on offense, despite a depleted RB core, they drafted a marquee blind-side tackle for the guy who is living up to expectations, and he had a pro-bowlish contingent of wideouts to throw to. He will have none of that in Chicago. Moreover, you'd never have seen Elway on the bench with a towel over his head after throwing a pick. He'd be right out there huddling with his guys to see what went wrong.
I did not want to see Cutler leave. I do not think Orton, or Simms, or any QB in this year's draft measures up. But, after watching the Broncos basically throw away their season in a penultimate loss to Buffalo, it became obvious that Cutler is NO Elway. He missed a throw to his wide-open wideout in the back of the endzone (two throws in a row actually, but the penultimate throw was the one that lost the game) that Elway would've made 10 out of 10 times. Worse, he revealed his deep-seated immaturity in the post game interview. That was the shot across the bough. And this entire "debacle" really began when Shanahan was intially fired. Cutler's response was one of insubordination toward the owner, and when the playcaller in Bates was let go, it was a done deal. "Trade talks" were just the excuse.
I don't wish Cutler any ill-will. I wish there was a way to keep Shanahan as a coach, but not a personnel guy. I wish there was a way to keep the franchise QB. BUT, Denver needed a changing of the guard, both in terms of players and in terms of locker-room ambience. The reality is that Cutler has never taken his team to the playoffs, not once. Plummer took them, even when he had a mediocre defense (not every year, some years the defense was solid in terms of scoring -- not yards), in three out of four years, and it would have been four out of four had he not been benched for Cutler late in the season. And he only had half the arm of Cutler.
I knew something was up when Cutler decided to put his mansion on the block. Then, he only had his condo in Denver. Poor millionaire had it rough!!
I think something more along the lines of a one and a three would have been closer to fair value for Cutler.
The broncos had your quarterback and missed the playoffs by one game last year
Mr. Obvious wrote:
I think something more along the lines of a one and a three would have been closer to fair value for Cutler.
The Baltimore Ravens proved that you only need an average QB who can manage the game to win a Super Bowl, IF you have the league's greatest defense. However, in recent years, it's franchise QBs like Roethlisberger, the Manning brothers, and Brady who are needed to win Super Bowls, even with great D (even Peyton Manning's Colts stepped up and played better D than any other team in the playoffs, including the Bears, when he won). And I can't help thinking that if the Titans had ANYONE else just a notch better than Kerry Collins that they would've been the team to beat in the playoffs. So, maybe this is what Chicago needs to get them over the hump. And maybe it becomes a win-win for both teams. But, as of now, under the circumstances, the Bears overpaid. Cutler is not the LEADER that Manning or Roethlisberger or even Kurt Warner are.
DA bears wrote:
yea the bears are definitely the team to beat in the NFC North now...with that defense
You mean that paper bag pass defense? The Bears defense is bad. It's not 2005 anymore.
This move just shows how desperate the Bears are to acquire a name QB after so many years of mediocrity at the position. They traded a starter away who could potentially be a consistent 10-11 games per season winner in the right offense ALONG with the two first round draft picks and the others. All of this, and they traded a #12 pick THIS year for a guy who was drafted #11 and has yet to prove himself. Yeah, he threw for 4000 yards last year, BECAUSE he had no running game with all the injuries and they had to air it out. The Bears got fleeced, even if they do end up winning with this guy. I'd be willing to bet that his TD-INT ratio this coming year will be its worst ever, with more picks than TDs.
You know, I don't want to disparage the guy or the trade, but I laughed when I read that, because I share these sentiments. I would not be at all surprised if Cutler posted WORSE numbers than Orton did last year, in efficiency, in TDs vs. picks, in the W-L column. Cutler was a gambler with too much confidence in his arm and it got him in trouble a lot, despite having great protection, great receivers, and generally mild conditions in which to play.
There is no doubt Cutler is talented... As of the 2008 season though, he doesn't break my top 5:
1. Brady (still holds the crown for now)
2. Manning
3. Warner (Warner in his prime is up there w/ Brady, as of 2008 he can still throw)
4. Brees
5. Roethlisberger (While he is not as good as Brees, Warner, or Manning he's got as many rings as the three combined)
Cutler is arguably 6th.