9.44 miles or 15.19 kilometers is not 15k

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15 years ago 03/15/2009 11:05pm EDT

re: Gate River Run 2009

Gate River Run 2009 wrote:
If anybody has any insight here please share. Thanks!!

Yeah, I have a little insight for you- a link to the USATF Road Running Technical Council forum where folks discuss measurement topics. I suspected #'s generated by GPS units was going to cause directors of certified courses headaches so I hoped to head off the storm of protest by coming up w/a position statement via USATF. If you read thru, you'll learn no official statement was crafted but plenty was said to note the limitations of GPS units sold over the counter.

Go to:

http://www.measure.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/508102977/m/7421068171

I have no idea what the deal is about that 'runner route' info and 9.44 miles. Bad info there, bottom line.

I've yet to hear #'s from a GPS wearer come up short of the advertised distance on a certified course. GPS units are sweet devices providing useful info but they aren't as accurate as the tools used to certify courses.

15 years ago 03/16/2009 2:48pm EDT

re: Gate River Run 2009

I haven't looked for it, but I read an account of Williams's race awhile back. He took off from mile one, and I believe was alone by the time he crossed the first bridge, which was (I think) around 2 miles in. I know I've seen a picture of him early in the race and no one else is even visible. He went through the first 5k sub-14:00 in that race.

15 years ago 03/16/2009 3:18pm EDT

re: Gate River Run 2009

jeez, teach her to run tangents.

15 years ago 03/16/2009 6:03pm EDT

re: Clifford Diffley

GPS is not really the issue. The issue is this:

http://www.usatf.org/routes/view.asp?rID=268226

How can USATF officially state that a course is 15.19K and call it 15K?

15 years ago 03/16/2009 6:24pm EDT

re: just pointing out

you are joking, right?

15 years ago 03/16/2009 7:10pm EDT

re: just pointing out

just pointing out wrote:
GPS is not really the issue. The issue is this:
http://www.usatf.org/routes/view.asp?rID=268226
How can USATF officially state that a course is 15.19K and call it 15K?

There's nothing official about the numbers you see on the above link. The course is not 15.19 km. It is 15 km.

15 years ago 03/16/2009 7:18pm EDT

re: Gate River Run 2009

Gate River Run 2009 wrote:
If he actually had some help pushing the pace and the course had not been measured incorrectly then he might have had a crack at the course/american record. But since the course was long, there's no way in hell he had a chance at the record.

Yup, if he had someone to run with the last 10K, he definitely would have run in the 42:20s instead of the 43:30S. I mean, that's only like 11 seconds/mile faster. Piece of cake!

15 years ago 03/16/2009 8:23pm EDT

re: smd

You guys are all high on crack cocaine.

Get over you friggin GPS watches.

Records were set for a hundred years without the advent of GPS.

It is absolutely impossible to run perfect tangents and .14 over the course of 9.3 miles is very realistic - especially on a very twisty turny 15k course.

Get a hobby.

15 years ago 03/16/2009 8:30pm EDT

re: Gate River Run 2009

If anything, the course was short the year Todd ran 42:22

The course was also different that year - starting and finishing on the south side of the river and taking a long, long ramp down the Hart Bridge.

The ONLY year the course ever started and finished on the south side - Todd ran 42;22 -

Todd won the race 6 times - and his SECOND fastest time was slower than Fam ran Saturday

COINCIDENCE ???

HMM ???

DISCUSS AMONGST YOURSELVES

15 years ago 03/16/2009 11:52pm EDT

re: sugar daddy

I don't believe I give a crap about how close the course was to 15 km or even the US record for 15 km. I'm just happy to see Fam get a win, happy to see Nelson in contention, etc. Outside of the competition nothing else really matters to me.

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