[quote]OR wrote:
The outdoor 5k is a much tougher record than the indoor 5k one. Go back and look at how many indoor 5ks Kennedy, Goucher, and the like ran ever. The 80s ran it but after that it is pretty slim pickings.
I would have thought Rupp was close to having 1.51 speed in HS off his 4.02 mile pr. It doesn't seem like a huge increase. Of course that wasn't a peak race and who know what type of speed work he has one.
It is great to see that he is dropping his 5k pr more this year than in all the years since HS. Hopefully he gets even faster outdoor.
[quote]asleep at the wheel wrote:
I agree with you, but Rupp just set that record, who's to say that he won't drop it substantially over the next 4+ years?
Rupp said in an interview that he "pr'd" in practice recently running a 53 400, how many 1:51 guys do you know that have only run 53 seconds for 400? The point is, he has never really worked on the all out speed. Most high schoolers are running under 52 seconds on relay legs (many under 50 seconds) to get to 1:51. This is a guy who trained for long distance and now works on speed. He actually has upside on his speed.
I don't know about kennedy, but I know Goucher and all of those since him have run indoor NCAA's and even if they didn't run the 5K, they didn't run faster than Rupp in the 3K (he is the collegiate record holder). Considering that Rupp distances himself the further the distance goes up, and he's already ahead of them at 3K, it just follows that he could be faster than them at 5K indoor or outdoors.
It's not like Rupp has run a lot of indoor 5K's either.
Rupp has not raced a 5K in Europe (or even in a big one in the states for at least 3 years). Look at where Webb, Goucher, Riley, Solinsky, Kennedy, Teg & Lagat's outdoor P.R's came from! Rabbited european races.