sports hernia/ athletic pubalgia

i had sports hernia. i couldnt run without pain. i rested for many months and tried core strengthening, acupunture, etc. no help the pain always came back, the pain when sneezing and coughing, etc.

i went to germany with muschaveck and had surgery. she said i would be able to return to soccer in 4 weeks but it turned out to be 3 months. my groin pain didnt go away so i got a cortisone injection, which i was very hesitant to get, but it solved the problem. i returned to soccer. now i am playing soccer for years... overall for me muschevck fixed my problem. if anyone has any questions on my experience please email to

dmaxashman@gmail.com

for some people on here try rehabilitating your problem. do single leg work, get manual therapy on your adductor. for me i even see that terrible shoulder mobility and stability is a contributing problem to my groin pain!! find a good physical therapist this is very hard to do though...

I have seen Dr. Zoland a few months ago. I had persistent groin pain for the last 3 years. It kept getting misdiagnosed and, even though I'm in Washington, DC, I traveled all the way up to NYC to see Dr. Zoland. He cured me and Im back to running.

Let me make a long, frustrating story short; About 6 months ago, I was seeing a doc in DC about a minor shoulder problem and I happened to mention this persistent groin pain to him. He said I might have a sports hernia although he's not a specialist and that I should go see one. He recommended seeing one of the few sports hernia specialists in the nation and said I should travel out of the state if necessary. I ended up going to Dr. Zoland and he properly diagnosed me with a sports hernia and recommended surgery. I did the surgery and now Im cured, I still can't believe it was so easy to fix.

I actually saw your post when I was researching a bit on the internet before seeing Dr. Zoland and I thought I might as well respond now that things went well.

Seriously, whatever you do, don't take the advice of someone who claims they treat sports hernias but isn't willing to call themselves a specialist. Especially if they say they use laparascopic surgical technique, which is absolutely wrong and not the normal standard of care. The correct surgical technique is an open hernia repair. Anyway, I almost did a tenotomy, cortisone injections, and/or prolotherapy injections (not clinically proven or FDA approved, insurance wont cover it either) because some doctors who lacked experience and misdiagnosed me suggested it. Luckily the brilliant doc I saw for my shoulder who first suggested it was a sports hernia said don't try the risky/unnecessary stuff and just go out of state to see a true specialist.

Im glad everything worked out and I hope things work out for you too. Dont give up like I almost did. If you'd like to discuss this further, I'd be happy to talk.

I had the surgery done in May by Dr Meyers in Philly. He was awesome. I flew in Tuesday night and had MRI and Dr followup on Wed and surgery Thursday morning. Flew home Fri. I had bilateral rectus abdominus repair and extenive adductor work. Im 3 months post now and running 25 mpw and swimmin and biking. No complications and everything is great. His staff is world class. Email me at carlegbert@yahoo.com if anyone has questions.

I fixed mine without surgery.

How I did it:

For 2 weeks I,

1. Did not run or exercise strenuously.

2.Fasted starting in the late afternoon and ate very small portions for meals 3x per day.

3. Slept on my back allowing the hernia to sink back in.

4. Made sure I got AT LEAST 10 hours in bed (sleeping or not) during the night.

5. Any free time at all I had during the day went to resting/napping on my back which allowed the hernia to reduce itself.

After these two weeks I noticed that after getting in the mornings my hernia seemed to take longer and longer to pop out.

In all I would say the most important parts of this whole plan were sleeping/napping/resting and EATING SMALLER PORTIONS.

You have to understand that the muscles around the hernia as well as that section of the intestine is essentially suffering from a cumulative stress and exhaustion. Eating smaller portions reduces the size and frequency of your bowel movements, and the resting allows the skeletal and smooth muscle in the affected area to recover and rebuild.

I had an inguinal hernia for 16 months before I started to understand the true pathology of the condition.

3 different doctors told me that surgery was the only solution.

I will say this though: if the muscle and fascia around your inguinal canal is torn, your prognosis is not as good as if it were only stretched.

Think of it as training to heal your hernia, just like if you were training 120 mpw for a marathon.

Staterofobvious...

Can you elaborate on your experience with Dr. Brown? My daughter had the bilateral pelvic repair with mesh about 2 years ago and still has a lot of pain. We used a local Dr. who had learned the procedure in Boston...bug mistake. We are learning . We're trying to decide between Dr. Brown and the doctor in Germany. We're thinking someone is going to have to go in, open it up, and see what's happening. Dr. Brown has been consulting with us and seems great.

Hey,

I have been struggling with a sports hernia for three years....I had the mesh surgery with dr. Cattey, but have seen very little improvement. I looked up dr. Brown today, and I called his office...and he called me back!

I would like to spend some time speaking with you to get a better feel for his staff.

He did seem like a genuine man, and concerned for me.

Thanks,..

You know better then anyone how bad this injury sucks

Dave Wagner

847.899.5423 cell

Had the pelvic floor repair done by Meyers in August of 2010. Was able to run for another 12 months before issue recurred. In my case AP was the egg and FAI the chicken.

Finally got tired of the limping, sleeping like crap, and gradually downward spiral. Quit running 2 years ago January before the pain became all day everyday debilitating. Started racing bikes, no problems since.

I was always bad about doing the necessary core work. In a bizarre fashion, now doing twice weekly to improve bike power/position. I see my situation as more a result of not doing the necessary strength work instead of Meyers fault. He had cautioned me that there was impingement and to pay close attention to the hip post-op.

Good luck to all who are dealing with this condition.

Hello, my fiancé had bilateral surgery done by Dr. Muschaweck in Munich. It was a success till week 6 it got reinjued at well six and hasn't been the same since. Now we are looking for another surgeon that will re operate. I was reading about Llyod. I'd like to know how you are doing with his operation? Did it help? How was your recovery? I'd love to hear from you. Thanks

My fiancé had bilateral hernia repair by Dr. Um. He is still suffering from groin pain. I like to compare notes with you and figure out a solution for his problem. Thanks

How are people working around insurance companies for this surgery?

Dr. Zoland in NYC is looking for $3,500 up front yet Dr. Faith Menken is able to do the surgery with no charge; both under United Health Care.

Any help is greatly appreciated on this one.

Thank you,

JM

How are people working around insurance companies for this surgery?

Dr. Zoland in NYC is looking for $3,500 up front yet Dr. Faith Menken is able to do the surgery with no charge; both under United Health Care.

Any help is greatly appreciated on this one.

Thank you,

JM

Johnny, Did you get your surgery by Dr. muschaweck done? How was your experience and recovery? My fiancé just had his 3rd surgery on the right side with Dr.Muschaweck.

Hi Gabbi

I tried to mail you about your fiance's status but not heard anything - Can you get in touch please as i am 6 months out from a bi-lateral with UM and would like to compare notes.

thanks

Sudhir,

I am currently running into the same issue, going through pause mode for ~ 1.5 years. and I would like to get some guidance on pros and cons of a surgical approach. I live in DC. Please let me know if you are available for a chat.

Thanks,

never-give-up

Did Dr Brown fix both or your sides at once? If he did how much did everything cost and is it covered by insurance?

Hi everyone.

The other thread which is closed...along with other sites I was able to self-diagnose athletic pubalgia. My injury came on slowly, no sudden event. Eventually I couldn't do a situp and turning over in bed at night was excruciating. (40+ male distance runner).

Lots of time off did nothing to help the problem. Eventually 10 minutes of running or 2 hrs of yard work was my limit before I had to shut down and spend days recovering.

I will post some details after surgery with Dr. Meyers and rehab.

I had the surgery on May 13, 2014 with Dr Meyers and would recommend him. Not that he has the best follow up, but his office staff and the surgery staff was excellent with questions.

Seems to have fixed the problem but what a recovery. You read tons of stuff about how people are running in 3 weeks, who??? Not an easy surgery/rehab but worth it in the end. I am about 12 weeks out and have started some SLOW light running, but pain is minimal. Be patient after surgery and think about how long you have had this injury, do the rehab, and give it plenty of TIME!!!!! Let your body heal. Life isint a race to get to the end.

I am in SO MUCH pain. I have I believe AP. I had surgery 2 years ago which a mesh was inserted to the lower abs by a hernia surgeon. I have had ongoing pain in the right ADductors. Something has taken a turn for the worse. I ran through the pain for almost two years. Last year I did my first 50M. I didn't feel as terrible as I thought I would but my kick since then has been gone. Additionally pain has become progressively worse to the point that I could ambulate but not run. As of two days ago something further has changed. I can now barely walk or get out of bed. Sleep is very positional as almost any movement causes significant pain. I am very scared about not knowing where to go for this or who to trust. If you have any advice please help me.

I live in the US in WI.

Adam Lenarz

608-728-4477

I would like a copy of that research paper you referred to please.

Adam