Former all-american starting up again

Let's train together. How does Sunday night sound?

hmmm...i feel as though i'm reading about the female version of myself. only i finished college 9 years ago. all-american in the 5k and xc. as someone who enjoys the drink (and the smoke - you should get a vaporizer) I have also wanted to begin training again...but not enough to actually follow through with it. my advice: get with some sort of group or partner to create accountability. my ambitions of getting back into anything remote to my college fitness goes to shit because I don't have anyone to hold me accountable. but that's just my two cents...where did you reside now?

ok boys and girls. let's be clear.

if you're going to state that you're an all american, please also say what division you ran in. If it was D1, you are/were good. sort of close to that for DII. In most cases, if you were DIII, you are no slouch, but you would have been an "also ran" at DI meets.

I only say this b/c you're both throwing around the AA honors. no hate for any division here!

here's my serious advice--start up slow and consistently. Once you have a base and do a little up-tempo stuff, sign up for a good race within a couple months. that will get your but out the door every day.

have fun.

I was a division I all american. No offense to DII, DIII, NAIA, JUCO all americans...but it is nowhere near the same standard as a DI AA.

No point in going higher than 50/week until you have your 1500/5000 back to 430/1640 range. I'd probably cap your long run at 10 until you can go < 60 for 10 and < 5 mile solo in trainers.

Scope out the US lists, and pick the event you'd like to focus on. Given your interests, think about racing some regional level races for some extra cash, but set up the big marks on the track. If all you want is < 240 marathon, you probably dont need a coach, or much more than 430 speed on the track really, but you will have to set up things so you can train full time and work part time. Based on what you say about yourself, I would guess that < 16 5k would be a more meaningful goal for the next year or 18 months. Possibly 115 for h-marathon. My guess would be 3 years to be

a contender for a spot on the marathon team. Goucher will have moved up by then but there will be two spots wide open.

If you want to progress on the track, consider taking a year at least to get your basic speed back. You dont want to get to 430 1500m with just 61 speed. You cant megamileage your way out of lost speed. The intensity needed for decent track marks will help you figure out your structural/ mechanical weaknesses, so that you can address them now before trying marathon training. It will also help you see where your heart is at, and get out of the old bad habits, training errors and otherwise. You also want to test the speed side because you might not have trained optimally as a collegiate and might have more speed there than you realize. Kinda hard to go 15 for 5000m without 56 speed.

Drinking is a blood sugar problem. Lots you can do for that.

The stress fracture history is not necessarily a road block.

Lots you can do on that front also.

feel free to email me.

dsrunner@juno.com

What kind of drugs?

change your friends and lifestyle. if you don't do that first you are wasting our time.

Hi Erin.

"but drink and a do some other things quite a bit."

smoking?

"because I don't have anyone to hold me accountable."

You need to look inward.

cletus wrote:

I was a division I all american. No offense to DII, DIII, NAIA, JUCO all americans...but it is nowhere near the same standard as a DI AA.

Actually I'm sure my D2 team and I would kick your ass. Times please?

And if you're asking people on letsrun, odds are you're "all talk".

First of, good for you that you are getting back into it now rather than waiting 10 years. However one item you stated needs addressing

I probably can't get up to more than 50 miles a week w/ my work schedule

Bull. You are not WILLING to get up to more than 50 miles per week with your work schedule. Don't even try to pretend that you are so monumentally busy you can't do more than 50 miles per week. I know on-call doctors, wall-street types and married-with-3-kids-9-to-5-ers who can do more than that.

Having said that, it's simple. Just get some easy miles in. Screw a plan for now, work on getting your body used t running. Make a plan once you are relatively fit again.

Actually I'm sure my D2 team and I would kick your ass. Times please?

And if you're asking people on letsrun, odds are you're "all talk".[/quote]

I'm not the guy that started this thread biyatch, i was merely responding...and please don't tell me your dII jerkoffs would kick my ass...but if you want times, here you go:

3k 8:05

5k 13:54

I'm not saying I'm the fastest guy on this website...but I'll say it again...DII, etc. AA is not the same ball park, the same league, it's not even the same f***ing sport as DI AA.

If this is for real, get a coach.

www.5SpeedRunning.com

Where are you based out of?

You gotta keep a balance and continue to party but I would trade the smokin', crack cocaine, or whatever it is you do for some late night burritos or pizza. Chances are you will wake up on the weekend feeling all guilty, fat adn like if you need to burn off that brick in your stomach. That will cover long runs. If you like to party, chances are you don't like to run in the morning. That is cool..just get up and go to work like a normal person. Do your training whenever you want...just get it done. I can be found doing repeats at 10pm. Its better that way and its dark. Nobody sees what an asshole you look like out there tryin to hit splits. Eventually you will be too tired to party and turn back into the running dork you used to be. And love it. Good luck woman!

You gotta keep a balance and continue to party but I would trade the smokin', crack cocaine, or whatever it is you do for some late night burritos or pizza. Chances are you will wake up on the weekend feeling all guilty, fat adn like if you need to burn off that brick in your stomach. That will cover long runs. If you like to party, chances are you don't like to run in the morning. That is cool..just get up and go to work like a normal person. Do your training whenever you want...just get it done. I can be found doing repeats at 10pm. Its better that way and its dark. Nobody sees what an asshole you look like out there tryin to hit splits. Eventually you will be too tired to party and turn back into the running dork you used to be. And love it. Good luck woman!