1:46.89 for Webb

cantstandtherain wrote:

or he is a big race runner who runs his best in the races that count the most.

That's it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

We all know now that Webb is ALWAYS ready when it counts!!

How damn stupid can you Webb nut lickers get?????????????

That's it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

We all know now that Webb is ALWAYS ready when it counts!!

How damn stupid can you Webb nut lickers get?????????????[/quote]

The quote was referring to Christian.

Smith also ran poorly before the Trials. Matter of fact the trials is the only time this year he has run well. But hey, he's going to the Olympics.

joev9 wrote:

"I'll be surprised if he doesn't have the fastest 1,500 of the year for the US by the time the season is over."

I've said it before.... when Webb is in shape -- and I think his fitness is improving -- he can be a good time trial runner. Hell, put him out on the South Lakes track this weekend, he'd probably run a 3:55 mile all by himself, or maybe with 100 rabid diehard fans cheering him on.

But put him on the track with a championship on the line, with 50,000 fans in the stands, and competitors with icewater in their veins staring him down, and he'll fold like a house of cards.

So I don't care if he runs 3:33 at Paris. There is nothing on the line. No medal. No Olympic berth. No Lagat.

He can only do *better* than what he did in Eugene. He can't run worse (unless he DNFs, which is always a possibility with him....)

So if he does well, it just means his head is his weakness.

And if you know anything about competitive running, that's the biggest disadvantage of all.

No, being too slow to beat your opponent is a bigger disadvantage.

Good effort Overall.

I see Webb as an good competitor. Not a great competitor, of course, but not nearly as inept as your opinion offers.

First off, he made the 2004 Olympic team at a young age; second, he made the finals in WC in 2007. Third, he's run fast against good competition and he's beaten good competitors, such as Lagat, head to head. That is a lot more than running a fast time trial.

The biggest plus I give him as a competitor was in the WC last year. He had peaked too early, wasn't at his best, but still had himself posed with 80 meters left in the 1500 to win the race. True, he finished slowly, but he did all he could do as a competitor to give himself a chance to win. If you want to say that is folding like a house of cards, I'd like to know what type of cards you play poker with.

He's yet to prove that he's a great competitor. And maybe he never will. But please spare us all the nonsense of him being this mental defective. I think that his difficulty lies more in the physical realm. If his body is right, he will give a good account of himself. Does that mean that no one could beat him - no, but he's among the best if he can straightened his wagon out.

Fact of the matter is Webb was training for Bejing, while Lomong and Manzano were training for Eugene. American Mileing isn't what it was a few years ago, and if you're not on your game at the trials, you probably won't get in. Webb is the perfect example of this. He probably will have the best time for an American this year, maybe have the best time in the world even. But Lomong and Manzano are too close in ability to not be thinking about a peak in the trials. Unfortunatly for Webb, he wasn't.

13 people on the start of an 800.

And 11 of them finished within a second and a half of each other.

1:46.89

Didnt he run 1:47 a month ago. Doesnt seem like he's making much progress. It was obviously a close race, his kick didnt appear to be strong at all.

Being burned or past the seasons peak is way worse than being undertrained or not in great shape. If he is burned, forget this season, especially if he keeps racing which will just compound the problem. Ive been there, you just race and have no extra gear, that seems to be were Webb is now. Season = Done

The truth is he just underestimated his competition and he was NOT READY!! The times he is running now he ran as a high schooler. you have to show up with your A game at this level or you stay home. Right now he is so far off his A game he is not even competitive. I mean 1:46.89 800 m and 3:55 mile. He is 3 sec off his 800m time and almost 9 seconds off his mile time from last year!!

It's too bad that Webb didn't make the Olympic team. It's disappointing, but it's done. He still has a whole summmer season ahead of him though. He might as well try his hardest, and not having the pressure of the Olympics may help him relax. This summer could turn out to be one of his best. And we might as well cheer him on.

I watched yesterday's 800 on flotrack and I was actually encouraged by Webb's race. He was running at the back of the pack for 600, and then actually kicked past some people in the final 200 meters, unlike the trials where he got worked in the final 200...

The truth is he just underestimated his competition and he was NOT READY!! The times he is running now he ran as a high schooler. you have to show up with your A game at this level or you stay home. Right now he is so far off his A game he is not even competitive. I mean 1:46.89 800 m and 3:55 mile. He is 3 sec off his 800m time and almost 9 seconds off his mile time from last year!!

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just didnt bring his A game- Haahhahhahaa

Step up to the plate

Give it his all

Guess he never thought he would have to bring his "A" game-

yout wrote:

Webb is slowly creeping up into 3:34 condition. By the end of the summer look for a 3:32+.

Wow. 3:32 would be really good. Considering he ran 3:30 last year. Sounds like he planned this year really well

I think it's as simple as this. The Men's 1500 was a pretty sloppy affair and Webb got caught up in the wash. I think if they ran the race 10x he makes the top three 7 out of the 10.

It's like when a basketball or football team has a bad game and loses to a lesser team, sometimes it's just not your day.

cantstandtherain wrote:

He is running about the same as he ran before the trials. All it tells me is he is either training through these meets, has taken a breather before ratcheting it up for the olympics or he is a big race runner who runs his best in the races that count the most.

The final possibility is that he peaked *perfectly* for the Trials and is now on the backside of his peak.

We won't know until Bejing.

he actually ran a 3:30 at paris last year...

It doesn't matter Webb is faster than every person posting on this site. So until you have run the times he has I would suggest you keep your mouth closed. You all have no room to speak...absolutely none. Grow up and stop all the gossiping.