middle distance training

meant to say bump, didn't read it over that carefully before and I know how some people on here get about spelling.

Get yourself a copy of Peter Coe's and David Martin's "Better Training for Distance Runners."

Seek out everything that Jim Spivey has posted on this site.

thanks, I have already purchased Jack Daniels Running Formula. But I will look for Seb Coe's as well. Appreciate the response

Md,

Getting a stress fracture seems to indicate that you may have some mechanical issues when you run at slower speeds and longer distances. Have you ever examined your running technique? I would strongly encourage you to take a look at

www.posetech.com

for valuable insights into proper running mechanics. If you have any questions you can go to the running forum there and I will be glad to offer more advice.

Jeremy

Run long runs on soft surfaces, preferably grass. Do some barefoot running and strides on manicured surfaces if possible.

Jeremy,

I have noticed that since you pointed it out. I am generally a toe runner at any distance. Just a habbit I have picked up and haven't changed. That could have been a main reason for my stress fracture with more miles. Thanks for the site, I will be sure to check it out and see what adjustments I can do as I add the miles on. Thanks for your time

Jeremy,

I have noticed that since you pointed it out. I am generally a toe runner at any distance. Just a habit I have picked up and haven't changed. That could have been a main reason for my stress fracture with more miles. Thanks for the site, I will be sure to check it out and see what adjustments I can do as I add the miles on. Thanks for your time

I was the same way with toe running. Focus of form during the easy runs and drills. Plus with running more miles your body will change on its self.

Slow down when you're ramping up your mileage. No need to cook 6:30s when you're into uncharted milage territory. Get the volume to where you want it, then worry about how fast you're going. A lot of guys who get injured when they do more than 60 miles a week are the ones who insist on 6:20 pace year-round. There are times to run slow and times to run fast.

And if you're picking up a book on Coe and you already have Daniels, you might as well pick up a book on Lydiard to round out the "Big Three"

and don't listen to that pose tech crap. he posts that same stuff in just about every thread.

Ok, thanks to the both of you on the responses. These next two weeks are my "off" (light running/bike/soccer for fun) weeks getting ready for the next phase. I will leave the watch at home a few times and focus more on form and just running to what my body feels. I have had a tendency to pick up the pace running alone feeling that I am not running fast enough but I will slow it down and just concentrate on form and movement. I might as well round out all three and check into Lydiard, it wouldn't hurt to get every angle and training systems.

M -

You have accomplished a lot in a relatively short time-frame, which shows you have a lot of talent. You may not need drastic changes in training.

About running more miles:

Slowing down just to do more miles per week may not be your best course of action. You may benefit from simply adding some double-day workouts each week. Try adding a half and hour run twice a week for the next month and then add another one the following month. If that goes well, add another. Essentially, you increase mielage gradually and in increments you can handle.

*My first collegiate coach, Bill Cornell (1:46.94 (800m) ad 3:42.74 (1500m) in 1963 and 1962) said that you should not go crazy with mileage just for the sake of running mileage. He said over and over, "I ran 4 flat in the mile and 1:48 in the half (mile) on 70 miles per week - hard."

He was top 3 in the D1 championships, too, by the way.

Note, those times were on cinder tracks, which are slower than today's tracks!

Best of luck to you!

Tinman

Tinman,

Thank you for this message. I have considered what a few morning runs would do. I will take all comments and ideas that people have posted into consideration. I will try these over the next month or two before XC and see what my body can handle and what it likes. I have one more season left of XC left and would like to see how this past season of track with a stronger base frame can do. I will add the two days a week of double work and also start off gradually getting into it and getting a more suitable pace than hard every time like I am used to. Again, I keep saying thanks after each post but I really am appreciative and take all of these comments very serious and respect everyone's help. Hopefully I will see good XC season and hopefully a breakthrough in track in this upcoming year.