So when a jury consisting of twice as many blacks as whites returns a verdict of Not Guilty, that is somehow a problem of the black community?
So when a jury consisting of twice as many blacks as whites returns a verdict of Not Guilty, that is somehow a problem of the black community?
nowwhat wrote:
So when a jury consisting of twice as many blacks as whites returns a verdict of Not Guilty, that is somehow a problem of the black community?
twice as many whites as blacks I meant to say...it was:
8 whites and 4 blacks
bill bowerman should have went to jail. he peed on kids too and burned them with keys and did lots of other worse things than R Kelly
nowwhat wrote:
So when a jury consisting of twice as many blacks as whites returns a verdict of Not Guilty, that is somehow a problem of the black community?
When a unanimous vote is required for conviction it is.
4 angry men wrote:
When a unanimous vote is required for conviction it is.
If it were close they probably would have deliberated for longer. I saw pretty objective analysis suggesting that the prosecutors had a difficult case to prove. Seems like the jury thought that there was reasonable doubt. It is pretty hard to convict someone when the victim doesn't testify to being victimized.
All the other evidence makes it clear that I wouldn't let R. Kelly near underage girls.
Of course, white juries never nullify to convict a black defendant when he there is reasonable doubt. The fact that a black man convicted of killing a white victim is (overwhelmingly) more likely to get the death penalty is simply attributable to predominantly white juries' good sense of the law. C.F. McCleskey v. Kemp.
Nullification works both ways: to acquit and to convict. Learn the law before you use it.
it was someone else on the tape. the police lied again. what else is new. the u.s. is the most racist nation on earth.
A) He's probably guilty, but we'll never know.
B) The tape was 5 years old, the former mayor of Chicago even said he thought the results would come back not guilty. If you wait that long to press charges your chance of conviction goes down the tubes.
C) He probably paid her a nice pile of cash to shut up and go home.
D) She was the one refusing to testify.
I'm not sure how you convict someone when the victim and her family refuse to testify about a grainy video that was 5 years old. I think alot of you are just angry because you think another celebrity got off the hook. It could have been a white no name guy, no way this trial was gonna fly no matter how much you wanted to believe it could.
100% true... and R Kelly has 10 girls bumpin and grindin all over him tonight while he sings(gospel version) "I believe I can fly."
what about nailing toby keith who always has a dozen gay oakie and texan boys beside him.
6:44 PM PT -- R. Kelly's attorney, Steven Greenberg tells TMZ ... "I am unaware of any 'special' grand jury being convened to look into R. Kelly. There is no record of any such proceedings, and no need for them. The report is false."
Not possible wrote:
Did he need to have sex with her in front of the jury for a conviction?
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25145335/
Hell yeah!
He is being framed. Nothing more. Nothing less.
Titan wrote:
Blacks fill prisions!
Image if the juries wasn't so bias!
Hey Homey it should read!
Imagine if the juries weren't so biased!
Blacks fill prisons!
Hey Homie,
If you are going to call someone out for poor grammar, at least get it right, yourself. This way, you won’t look like a massive derrière. “Hey Homey it should read!” Has one spelling mistake, lacks 2 commas and shouldn’t have an exclamation mark.
Apart from that, you nailed it.
R. Kelly's maintaining his innocence despite being charged with 10 counts of sexual abuse, but he thinks he's screwed anyway ... because he's already lost in the court of public opinion.
Sources close to the singer tell TMZ ... he believes it will be impossible for him to get a fair trial in the aftermath of Lifetime's docuseries, "Surviving R. Kelly," and nonstop media coverage -- especially in Chicago.
As one source put it ... "There isn't a person in Cook County who hasn't heard all the hateful things said about him."
We're told R. Kelly believes ... even if he presents evidence proving his innocence, the jury will still find him guilty. Our sources say he's moved on from panic attacks and has been in a depressed meltdown for days.
As we reported ... Cook County prosecutors hit R. Kelly with 10 counts of aggravated criminal sexual abuse Friday morning. There are a total of 4 alleged victims, 3 of whom were between the ages of 13 to 16.
Jerry Springer disagrees about R. Kelly having no shot at a fair trial, and for a case in point ... he says look no further than the O.J. Simpson trial.
Springer admits it might be difficult to find 12 impartial jurors -- and R. Kelly's lawyers will probably push for a change in venue -- but says the judicial system is set up the way it is for a reason.
1:15 PM PT -- As we told you ... Joycelyn Savage and Azriel Clary were both in the courtroom for R. Kelly, and were reportedly sitting in the first row reserved for friends and family during his hearing. The women are allegedly the singer's "sex slaves," but both have denied that. They were seen holding hands entering court together. He also claims R. Kelly's handlers were at the courthouse to keep Azriel Clary's parents away from her and believes Azriel has been brainwashed. 2:10 PM PT -- We're told until R. Kelly makes bail, he's being held in a holding pen by himself because the jail doesn't want him interacting with other inmates for safety reasons. R. Kelly's considered a "high profile individual," and if he doesn't bond out tonight he'll be placed in his own cell. TMZ's also obtained video of Joycelyn and Azriel leaving the courthouse. Neither woman had anything to say about Kelly's case or their relationship with their parents.
7:30 PM PT -- R. Kelly reportedly failed to post the $100k bond by the cutoff time of 9 PM in Chicago, so he'll have to spend the night in jail. R. Kelly's lawyer reportedly said the singer's finances are a mess, so he can't bond out just yet. However, a source close to Kelly tells us he'll be able to gather up $100k soon and post bail.