Baby Nationals vs. Real News

A lot of D1 runners think they are above DIIIer's just because of the number. How many DIII guys come out and end up being elite? Andrew Rock has a gold medal, Nick Symmonds may well get one some day, and Will Leer is looking better and better. People just need to get off their high horse and understand that not all of the talent goes to DI. A lot of these guys (and girls) have futures.

I would like to point at that the fastest guy in all divisions, Scott Bauhs, runs in Division 2.

Wejo is frequently completely full of sh*t.

But according to the D1 guys, Bauhs probably has a sore vagina and needs to man up and earn his way to a D1 scholarship. Only wussies go to D2, and it's only because they weren't good enough for D1, not by choice.

Well, sounds like the only fair thing to is get rid of the separate divisons...agreed...and have One Championship for college athletes...Sounds fair to me!

it must be weird/strange to have explain the diffence to your friends that being a "All American" of Baby Nationals isnt quite the same as being a true "All American". Sorta like college basketball.

Agreed. As I said on the big Baby Nationals thread, as a former multi-time NAIA All American who knows that I would've had my ass handed to me in D1, I have never been more embarrassed to be associated with such a plethora of whiners. If you get your panties in a bunch because someone called your division "baby", then how about training in such a way that you can point to the scoreboard to at least say that the "Baby" moniker doesn't apply to you.

Although he likely wouldn't vocally admit, I bet Scott Bauhs himself knows that D2 is baby compared to D1.

Please just shut up with the cryin' already!

Division II wrote:

I would like to point at that the fastest guy in all divisions, Scott Bauhs, runs in Division 2.

I can think of a couple guys in DI that are faster.

Scott was almost beaten (won .73 seconds) in a D2 race by a guy who was on his 3rd race in 3 days....its not like the competition isnt there

Wejo's BN remark was lame, but so is the endless discussion of it.

Especially so because running is one of the few sports where you can accurately compare results and times for competitors who do not directly face each other.

If you're a D3 volleyball champion and you think you could have played for a D1 program you don't have any good way of testing that theory.

But if you run, say, 30 minutes for 10,000 meters on a track ... well that's how fast you are. It does not matter what division you were in when you logged the time.

So baby or not baby ... the proof's in the PR. Yes, racing is more complex than just a time trial result, but it's still pretty clear that your fastest time at a given distance pretty much defines the extent of your ability.

seenitall wrote:

Agreed. As I said on the big Baby Nationals thread, as a former multi-time NAIA All American who knows that I would've had my ass handed to me in D1, I have never been more embarrassed to be associated with such a plethora of whiners. If you get your panties in a bunch because someone called your division "baby", then how about training in such a way that you can point to the scoreboard to at least say that the "Baby" moniker doesn't apply to you.

Although he likely wouldn't vocally admit, I bet Scott Bauhs himself knows that D2 is baby compared to D1.

Please just shut up with the cryin' already!

if you're so sick of it then why do you keep reading and chiming in on these threads?

1) It's like a trainwreck

2) You don't let people you care about continue to embarrass themselves AND you without saying something.

and maybe a little of

3) For trolling purposes, this topic is perfect. So, at the same time that I am embarrassed by all these small school wusses, I am also laughing at them!