Andrew Wheating 3:38.60!!!!!

Alder Street wrote:

Dub Myers had one of the most successful NCAA careers ever over his 4 years at Oregon. It's a shame he didn't compete after college.

Dub Myers NCAA career

1983 5th 3:41.92 (winner Frank O’Mara)

1984 3rd 3:37.94 (winner Joachim Cruz)

1985 4th 3:42.93 (winner Abdi Bile)

1986 1st 3:41.72

your taco, paco? wrote:

Bill Bowermans Statue wrote:

After watching his finish again, I honestly can't think of another race (of this relative caliber) where someone made such a decisive move over the last 150.

How soon we forget...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=it9uLpoUMks

After careful review of both, I'm in agreement with the first poster. Webb's victory was studly, but not as decisive as Wheating's. In fact, I'd say about half as decisive. I don't know what Webb's last 200 was, but it looked like he really waited until he was sure he could get it before he let it rip (maybe the last 110). Wheating committed at 180 to go and damn near had half a stretch on 2nd place by the finish!

Yup, like who did Webb beat? A bunch of nobodies. Like ummm, Wheating beat the guy from survivor! The day Alan Webb races these guys you can talk about him, but until then, hey wait a minute, Webb was ducking this race! Yah, Webb sucks! Yah Wheating RULES! Blood RULES! AJ Nation RULES! Yah!

2 Brendan O'Keefe Zap Fitness 3:40.90

3 James Hatch Unattached 3:40.92

4 Sean O'Brien OTC Elite 3:41.49

5 Gabe Jennings Eugene Health & 3:41.81

6 Carlos Jamieson American University 3:41.84

7 Brad Woods Australia 3:42.00

8 Don Sage OTC Elite 3:42.17

9 Graeme Wells Unattached 3:42.93

10 Jake Morse Unattached 3:43.13

irun wrote:

wheating can be really good, but he's still just a pre-madonna.

Hahaha he's a "pre-madonna" hey? Not quite a madonna yet? Oh well maybe one day if he works hard...

Or maybe you meant "Prima donna"? In which case he is either:

1. The leading woman soloist in an opera company.

2. A temperamental, conceited person.

Can't believe this idiot is comparing the field in Oregon to the field in NY last year!

dont be a dumbass, pre's dead, and everyone runs their own race however they want. i bet you couldn't run a 338 in your life.[quote]1600m stud wrote:

malmo wrote:

Alder Street wrote:

Dub Myers had one of the most successful NCAA careers ever over his 4 years at Oregon. It's a shame he didn't compete after college.

Dub Myers NCAA career

1983 5th 3:41.92 (winner Frank O’Mara)

1984 3rd 3:37.94 (winner Joachim Cruz)

1985 4th 3:42.93 (winner Abdi Bile)

1986 1st 3:41.72

Malmo - where do you store or find all of these nuggets of arcane, but great, information?

I'm too lazy to find it, but there is a website with all of the results of the NCAA outdoor champs - maybe indoor, too.

Webb and Lagat are among the five best Americans ever. Wheating is just another talented NCAA type runner.

man with brain wrote:

[quote]irun wrote:

wheating can be really good, but he's still just a pre-madonna.

Hahaha he's a "pre-madonna" hey? Not quite a madonna yet? Oh well maybe one day if he works hard...

quote]

Wasn't Cyndi Lauper pre-Madonna?

Verticle taco wrote:

Wheating committed at 180 to go and damn near had half a stretch on 2nd place by the finish!

why do people have to take impressive feats and exaggerate them to the point where it is just annoying? i mean come on, half a stretch? you lose all credibility

So imagine if Wheating kicks for the win in a tactical OT final, but never gets the A standard? Does everyone else stay home? Not that I think it will happen.

seabiscuit wrote:

So imagine if Wheating kicks for the win in a tactical OT final, but never gets the A standard? Does everyone else stay home? Not that I think it will happen.

If he doesn't make the A standard, he won't go to Beijing, period.

He will do well if he finishes among the top ten in the Olympic trials final. Webb and Lagat will probably push the trials finals to 3:35 or under.

Not saying he will, but after seeing him run the 3:58 and the 3:38, I wouldn't be surprised if he, in the right situation, can go 3:36 or 3:35. That'd be especially tough after several heats, but neither race I've seen was tactically very good. He was just able to make the best of it, from my point of view. I still say it'd be too tough for him to make the team. Making the final would cap a great year for him. Plus, he's only a sophomore in college, so he should be around in 2012.

pre841 wrote:

man with brain wrote:

[quote]irun wrote:

wheating can be really good, but he's still just a pre-madonna.

Hahaha he's a "pre-madonna" hey? Not quite a madonna yet? Oh well maybe one day if he works hard...

quote]

Wasn't Cyndi Lauper pre-Madonna?

Aah touche!

I've watched the video of Wheating's 3:38 four times now. I'm not sure this kid knows how good he is right now. He laid 25+ meters off the leaders, maybe more, most of the race. But like last week when he walked down Christain Smith and Hicks, he ran to win. One of the things I really like about this kid is that he seems to be a racer, not a runner.

What I'm eager see is how he fares in a race when he has to run 3:35 or faster to win. In watching that race, I have little doubt that he had 3:35 in him the night he ran 3:38.

Consider this:

-- The all-time list of American milers who could close in 26.0+/- in a 3:38 race is a fairly short one; maybe 15-20 guys or so? Quite a few have 3:38 or faster (don't have the exact number) but those who could run 3:38 closing that fast are in the minority.

-- The all-time list of guys who could close in 26.0+/- in a 3:38 race as a college sophomore is much shorter, probably less than ten and possibly less than five.

-- The all-time list of guys who could close in 26.0 +/- in a 3:38 race as a college sophomore after only running for about three years is probably one: Wheating.

With those closing wheels, I think Wheating is custom made to give a lot of people fits in the non-rabbited heats and final at the Oly Trials. This kid is a Grade A, dyed-in-the-wool Real Deal.

Zat0pek, you have been banned from further posting on LetsRun. reason? you understand the sport.

Some more statistics: in the off-chance that Wheating makes it to the Olympics in the 1500, I think he'll be the second Vermonter to do so in that event. Frank Crowley made the 1932 team and finished 8th in the Oly final. Results:

http://www.sporting-heroes.net/athletics-heroes/stats_athletics/olympics/1932_m.asp

Go Vermont!